Orban is a pro-putin piece of shit who needs to go
He’s also the fascist USA’s best pal in Europe. He needs to go.
This seizure appears in response to a gas pipeline that Ukraine destroyed during the war.
The price shock from the Iran War is driving people to do desperate things in order to stay in power. You can get mad at Orban for being a POS. But he’s not the prime mover here. This is all downwind of Israel/US closing the Straight of Hormuz.
Lol Russia destroying a pipeline in Ukraine doesn’t make Ukraine responsible for their shit. Orban is a fucking russian asset, and noone believes in anything his compromised ass spouts.
Orban is a fucking russian asset
He’s more bound up in American geopolitics. But then Americans keep smelling shit, then blaming foreigners for the load in their pants.
Orban is a fucking FSB puppet and nothing else, no need to be dragging the US into this.
Orban is a fucking FSB puppet
He came up through US anti-communist front groups and has turned his country out to Silicon Valley goons and evangelical reactionaries.
So had Putin, at least during the War on Terror era.
They’ve been peas in a pod under every Republican administration since Bush 41. At best, you could describe them as Rogue Assets, assuming you ignored how often they work to benefit American industry.
Ok this hit harder than the silly meme.
Damn get ratio’d Ivan.
Ok now provide sources that proof he has more to do with the US than Russia in politics.
(while he fucks over the EU all of the time)
Trump, Silicon Valley, and Europe’s Far-right
Heritage Foundation, a prime mover in American domestic politics: Why the U.S. Must Befriend Hungary’s Populist Leader
We’ve seen the American hand behind Orban since his days in the Alliance of Young Democrats (ironically enough, founded by Orban’s favorite whipping boy George Soros).
He’s an American proxy and always had been. If he’s been a wedge into the EU for decades, that’s by design.
Putins playing Trump and Orban, their interest don’t align all the time but often enough to make it hard to argue he’s not got a couple hands up is ass making him dance. Sorry for calling you Ivan.
The USA needed the Russia skrong narrative to fund defense, and Russia needs US based political power to secure their assets here. Allies of convenience but not friends. Orban advances these goals in Europe along the same lines for both countries.
Whatever his interaction is with American politics, I dont think you can blame everything Orban does on Americans. And would it surprise you to know that every fellow American I know hates and mistrusts their government? To be fair, all of the people I spend energy associating with are strongly progressive.
I dont think you can blame everything Orban does on Americans
Sure. He’s got a huge network of domestic supporters who are along for the ride.
Every fellow American I know hates and mistrusts their government? To be fair, all of the people I spend energy associating with are strongly progressive.
Will you distrust the government when it flips back to Dem control?
Obama currently has a 90% approval among liberals. It doesn’t seem like they’ve learned anything.
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I count on you to connect all evils back to the US. Sometimes the lines are less clear.
Orban started this before the Strait of Hormuz was closed.
If EU had a federal police, Orban would be arrested.
I seriously hope the Hungarian votes Orban out in the upcoming election, and when that is done, that Orban will face criminal charges.I seriously hope EU leaders grow a fucking spine and kick those assholes out.
I hope the population vote him out, and turn more pro EU.
If they reelect Orban though, then I completely agree with you. There’s a limit to how many chances they should have.Sadly EU leaders think they still have 15 chances left.
misinformation is too strong. Hopefully they won’t get a supermajority again at least…
I’m waiting for everyone to understand we’re in a global information war, and nowhere can really have free and fair elections with the current state of information.
It’s mostly just Orban and his buddies though.
And the majority of population that voted for them multiple times.
Yeah, never mind the election rigging.
EU is built on naive idealism. The charter does not have provisions for how to kick someone out. Hungary would have to do a Brexit on their own, which of course they won’t.
You can suspend their rights. That would actually be the perfect solution. They stay in the common market so EU’s economy would not be impacted in any way. You just don’t let them vote. Sanctioning the shit out of them would be even easier. Suspending rights has to be unanimous but I’m not sure who would object it. Slovakia maybe? It’s hard to believe EU would not be able to push this through if they really wanted. Anyway, can’t or don’t want to is equally pathetic here.
The EU isn’t a federation, not as of 2026.
I do kind of hope that someone lends the funds to cover it, though, and that Orbán loses next month and Hungary subsequently hands it back.
From looking at how it takes away self determination in USA, I hope we never get federal police in EU.
But the lack of ability to handle a rogue state like Hungary is a problem.We have federal police here in Australia. They don’t have to be bad. It can be useful when criminals travel across borders - all states have their own police force and jurisdiction ends at the border. Mostly our criminals are dealt with by state police but sometimes the AFP get involved where necessary.
They would be shot to death by Hungary’s military. Or any other member state’s where applicable. The EU is not a (federal) state and there is no popular support for becoming one.
Orban might be a piece of shit but that does not justify making the EU a state and forcibly taking sovereignty away from members.
With as toxic as Orban (Hungarian Leadership) is to Ukraine, it surprises me that Urkaine would take the risk of transporting this valuable cargo through Hungary or Slovakia when bound for Astria. It might be a longer drive, but the path through Poland and Czechia may be preferred going forward.
