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    27 days ago

    Funny. I was called a Zionist on Lemmy because I said the kids at the festival shouldn’t have had to die.

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      27 days ago

      I think most people can acknowledge that Oct 7 was bad, and also recognize the apartheid and genocide of Palestinians is bad.

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      27 days ago

      I mean, some people are overzealous, but maybe there’s more context too?

      Fundamentally, yeah, civilians getting caught in a conflict sucks.

      It’s just that this one attack is used as justification for the vindictive massacres since, which is both wildly out of proportion and extremely unfair to the civilians not involved in the attack who, even in the most charitable reading, get killed for other people’s sins, and in a less charitable one, get killed for other people’s genocidal conviction of supremacy.

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            26 days ago

            In this case the bullied kid shot up the school and not just the bully.

            It also is a completely different situation than someone in a concentration camp beating up their own guard.

            If you think the wasn’t wrong you support terrorism and aren’t any better than the terrorists themselves or the Israeli government.

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              26 days ago

              If you think the wasn’t wrong you support terrorism

              Yes. That is what we’ve been talking about. Terrorism was right when the suffragettes did it, it was right when John Brown did it, it was right when the French Resistance did it, and it’s right when Hamas does it. Terrorism has a long history of being on the right side of history and of occasionally being the reason for history progressing in the right direction.

              and aren’t any better than the terrorists themselves

              So terrorism is at most as bad as a random keyboard warrior with bad opinions?

              or the Israeli government.

              So orchestrating genocide is at most as bad as a random keyboard warrior with bad opinions?

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                26 days ago

                You’re just as bad as them since you support it if we follow your line of thinking from the Israeli government to the kids at the festival. And even worse because you don’t even know what opinions they held, I do know yours. You don’t get to choose. Either both are true or neither.