• Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    I still flip flop between ML and anarchism to be honest. I’m ML because of climate change time constraints but anarchist in heart.

    Really what I care about is improving things. And I will use whatever toolbox seems to be the best option under the conditions in order to achieve that.

    • Nakoichi [they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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      1 year ago

      Yeah I would love for it to be possible for us to simply build our new world and show people a better way, but we are running out of time and more authoritarian measures are going to be necessary.

      • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        1 year ago

        “more authoritarian measures are going to be necessary.”

        Welp, that’s the gotcha for calling you ‘tankie’ according to these people.

        Use state measures, and they would treat you as oriental orc with no sense… get crushed by authoritarians and they will publicly worship you while secretly celebrating a progressive defeat towards reaction…

        Edit: I’m pro-Nakoichi, just to clarify…

        • Tachanka [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          it all depends on whether by “authoritarian” the liberals mean “classes, hierarchies, oppression, bigotry and exploitation” or if they simply mean “using violence to bring an end to classes, hierarchies, oppression, bigotry and exploitation.” I find that they tend to mean the latter. Hence, I leave it to Engels:

          and also, oddly enough, Mark Twain:

      • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        I think third worldism is about to be ripped apart by climate change. We’re going to see a very very rapid destabilisation occur from climate refugee movements numbering in the tens of millions. It took just thousands of Syrian refugees to provoke huge EU destabilisation that led to Brexit, Greece, Italy, far right movements, etc etc… What’s going to happen when the numbers are in the millions is going to blow it out of the water.

        This rapid destabilisation is going to create a lot of revolutionary events.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          1 year ago

          Won’t that just accelerate fascism though? Though I guess you could apply the same argument to the third world as well, in terms of anti colonial nationalism that doesn’t go anywhere.

          • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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            1 year ago

            Yes. But everything that creates revolutionary conditions also accelerates fascism. It will win in some places, but I’m also quite sure that it will lose in others. We can not change the fact that these conditions are coming so we can only figure out what we’re going to do within them.

            My belief is that we should be preparing for this situation so that we can act when it comes.