• drath@lemmy.drath.ru
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    7 小时前

    Signal sucks, tho. Use Session instead. Or SimpleX. Or Delta Chat. Or Matrix…

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    Wife and kids had no problem; they hate people listening to their chats. A couple of slightly paranoid friends came along.

    You want to sell it? Tell them all those creepy ads that know too much about them are from Apple/Android chat apps that can listen.

    • MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip
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      Someone who is 92 in 2026 was born about 1934. The Great Depression persisted (in the U.S. at least) until about 1940. So she definitely survived some early childhood years during the Depression.

      But goddamn are we getting close to the point where the surviving elders are way way more likely to not have been around during the Depression than to have been.

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    I was able to get my family to move to signal but that was because they were already on WhatsApp.

    This is a shitpost but some people are taking it a bit too seriously, a family group chat doesn’t have to risk profile to require a level of “OpSec” that would require everyone to be on e2ee messaging. Don’t isolate yourself from your family over MMS group chat messages, maybe just don’t share your IBS flare ups in it if you are that concerned.

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      Yes, you do. Because we live in an era where Uber driver or nurse pay is based on surveillance: the more desperate they are, the lower the payment offered for the trip or the shift. Because we’re facing surveillance pricing also, where surveillance is going to compute how much you’re ready or desperate to pay for something, regardless its cost, and that might be higher than your reighbour’s result. Because we live in an era where abortion is banned in multiple places and who know what else will be later, after one of your relative will have told you what will become a confession?

      So yes, you do give a damn, and no you don’t talk over corporate surveillance networks as much as you can avoid them.

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    I live in the Netherlands so everyone uses Whatsapp. Which is worse than just SMS, even if SMS is less secure. Giving your data willingly to the Zuck is beyond stupid. I setup Whatsapp Business to send an autoreply that says that I’m on Signal if they want to contact me. Almost no one switches over and they just send me a SMS message. To be honest I don’t care, I’m just glad that I’m not part of many family group chats anymore.

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      12 小时前

      So many of my kids’ activities have a WhatsApp group for the parents to discuss upcoming games, practices and snack schedules. I always catch some flack for refusing to install zuck’s spyware on my phone.

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    My whole family is on signal. How did I get them there? I didn’t. Didn’t even talk about it. They just popped up, one by one, over the years. Unfortunately we don’t celebrate thanksgiving :(

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    Unless they are going to talk about nuclear cooked turkeys, he could just set up a burner VM and communicate through that and a vpn. That’s what I do when going to sketchy sites.

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    Granny did the risk assessment and decided that ease of use and low-maintenance is more important than security when it comes to everyday family matters.

    Not everyone ends in jail when they fuck up their opsec. Granny doesn’t run an online cocaine business.

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        She actually does, but cares about opsec there, so word hasn’t gotten out that it’s her.

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      Granny is smart enough to get grandson to be doing the leg work and never share a signal chat with him.

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      Ease of use and low maintenance just means inertia. I remember back when people wrote Tech articles saying that Windows XP was intuitive as an argument against Linux but it turns out that intuitive only ever meant it works exactly like Windows xp. Then people got smartphones and using a second type of computer interface turned out to be no big deal. And now Linux market share is growing rapidly, something we were told was never going to happen because of all sorts of reasons that apparently don’t apply.

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        Tbf linux has gone a long way to remove lot of the inertia. Also, with LLMs, its so much easier to use and learn Linux. Instead of chasing a problem for an hour on old forums you can get direct explanation and an answer in a minute.