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      Precisely. Kamala getting the news rags to print this means we will for sure never see the report in full. Especially the part about Zionism tanking her chances.

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        Definitely; she knew before the voting began just how devastating being a zionist was going to be and she still decided to go ahead with it; she favored losing over abandoning Israel; the report being released would just affirm that she’d made a terrible choice.

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      So I’m 95% sure you’re right and this is a stunt by her to get attention. However, the 5% chance here that it’s not fascinates me. Because if that were the case, then it would mean she believes whatever is in there is damning to others in the party but not her. Which could be hubris, but it feels within Kamala’s mindset that she blames the Biden people for her losing and thinks sinking their careers would pave the way for her in 2028.

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        I’m gonna be honest here, I always got the vibe from her that she’s nothing more than a parrot with little real agency; Biden, Hillary, Obama, all war criminals (with Biden being a genocider on top of all that), but they all had personalities of their own, Kamala just seems…like she’s just there, like she has no real personality of her own, or if she does, it’s a weak personality that insists on kowtowing to republicans in the vain hope they’d vote for her.

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    Never mind Marxism, USA won’t even get social democracy. She got the second best outcome, Trumpian fascism. At least the “progressives” didn’t get control of the DNC, right Kamala?

    Have fun losing again in the 2028 farce, if such a thing as a Presidential election even happens!

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    i’ve heard that this “autopsy report” might just be complete garbage in quality, like the dnc guy ken martin just handed it off to a buddy who did a shitty job actually collecting the data and such. since we all have a pretty good idea why she lost, turns out people are disgusted by genocide, i think it will be much more interesting if this report comes out and everyone has to make sense not of its conclusions, since we know those anyway, but if a person with any professional experience whatsoever even made it.

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      This would line up with him saying in that Pod Save interview that no one was paid to make the autopsy report. He was trying to downplay the “You spent a lot of money on this, we want to see it” argument but instead said something far more damning, because I sure hope people were paid for it! It required a bunch of work by several people, plus their travel expenses! The only way you didn’t pay anyone is if you got some freak donor volunteer to do it.

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          It would have to be someone independently wealthy enough to do the travel and possibly hire a small staff, although “Ken Martin’s buddies” and “freak dem donors” are groups that probably have a lot of overlap

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        I would think he was trying to say that it was prepped by employees - people who are being paid already. So no one paid for the report, they paid the people who prepared it directly. Buuuuut the other options also wouldn’t surprise me.

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          That would honestly be the best option and is still completely disingenuous. Those hundreds of hours of labor could’ve been used for other things, even if you were going to be paying for the labor regardless. Thats a cost.

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      Yea im fairly confident that any autopsy done by the dnc is just gonna conclude that everybody including any minority who wouldn’t support kamala is a racist straight white man.

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    why are people caring what this says? it’s like cops investigating cop killing, it will say whatever they want it to say, you can torture 50 polls every which way you desire.

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        That is what’s confusing me about this. Dems don’t care about reality much more than Republicans do, they’ve already spun their narrative that they were too woke and the solution is to be more fascist. Why don’t they just make shit up? If the report is so damning, just change what it says. Who’s gonna stop you?

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          I think an equally interesting question is who would it serve to not release it, which is clearly what they’re doing.

          EDIT: Of course it could just be a garbage report that’s embarrassing, with lots of typos and says nothing. But even then, I think it would be funny to read lol.

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            same reasons cops slow walk everything, people fight to release some shit for years, then fight to charge cop with that evidence and then they are pardoned by jury of their peers, water under the bridge and things of that nature.

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    the only logical (and funny) explanation for this is that the report concluded the reason kamala lost wasn’t because of the israeli genocide, but because people still thought biden was on the ballot and voted for him.