A woman who previously dated Maine Democratic Senate candidate Graham Platner said he drunkenly forced her to have sex after she told him to stop, according to a Politico report released Monday, leading prominent supporters to pull their endorsements and throwing a must-win race for the party into turmoil.
Platner denied the allegation, but said he would be considering next steps for his campaign.
“Regardless of the inaccuracy of the reporting but mindful of the political reality it will inflict, we’re taking the time to reflect on the best path forward,” he said in a video released on social media.
Jenny Racicot, who lives in Maine, told Politico that Platner entered her home in 2021 while drunk and assaulted her. Racicot said she had been in an on-and-off relationship with Platner, but she cut off contact with him after that night and told him the incident wasn’t consensual. A voicemail left at a number listed for Racicot seeking comment did not receive an immediate response.
Platner’s campaign did not immediately respond to an email and phone message from The Associated Press seeking comment.
“Any accusation of non-consensual behavior is categorically false,” Platner said in his video.
Still, the allegation sparked a flight away from a candidate who has long been controversial. Rep. Ro Khanna, a California Democrat who’d stood by Platner even as the insurgent candidate was hit with prior allegations, said Monday’s was enough. “I’ve been very clear that sexual assault or violence against women is a red line,” Khanna said. “These allegations are very serious and credible. Graham Platner should drop out from the race. I am withdrawing my endorsement.”
Edit: holy shit, these comments are insane.
Regardless of what you believe with this, Platner likely cannot win anymore. He has a week to do the right thing and drop out before he’s fully locked in. If he actually gives any sort of a shit (and doesn’t just want power, like rapists seeking office tend to), he needs to drop out yesterday.
This is the nail in the coffin for his campaign. It’s not time to defend him no matter what, because there’s still a week where a new candidate can be put into place. Instead of being mad at people not wanting to vote for him, you should start vocally supporting another candidate.
DAMMIT! After the FIRST Republican hit piece I said I don’t care PLATNER is my Guy but now that there’s a SECOND Republican hit piece with the EXACT same Allegation I guess I have NO CHOICE but to Vote for the People who will CONTINUE Protecting the Epstein Class!
Yeah, I generally agree with always believing a victim. But in this case, the person is clearly also a political operative. Waiting until just after the primary makes me immediately question her story. At the very least, it shows she cares much more about electing a Republican than she does about actually receiving justice. If she is a victim, she’s also an opportunist.
No, don’t you see, she deleted every text message, Instagram DM, call record and any other corrobarating proof that could ever backup the story and never filed a police report for these awful crimes and didn’t say a word for the past year because she saw that no one took the first accuser seriously because she was a proud Republican and she actually totally, like, agrees with Platner’s policies and is totally a Democrat [citation needed - allegedly voted Trump last year], so she did the wise thing and waited until the 25th hour of what is arguably the determining election of giving Dems the control of senate to write a hit piece about something that happened 7 years ago and hand the election to the 29-year incumbent demonstrably guilty of much worse. It’s that simple.
She provided a ton of corroborating evidence. Stop using misinformation to create a strawman
She didn’t delete the text messages and emails.
Racicot said she later deleted all her texts and socia media correspondence with Platner as she tried to move on from the assault. and said she has not beer able to recover the Instagram messages she sent him about the incident
She deleted all the texts with him but not all the ones with other people about him.
She deleted the text messages directly with Platner, not with her friends or therapist.
Racicot also shared details about the alleged assault to the man she dated after Platner, who she began dating in 2022. The man, who was granted anonymity out of concern for his personal privacy, told POLITICO that Racicot had told him in bits and pieces about a bad experience with Platner before confiding the full details of what had happened in 2023. His account of what Racicot told him about the incident matched what Racicot told POLITICO.
Racicot shared with POLITICO a series of private Facebook messages she exchanged with an acquaintance in 2023, about a year and a half after the alleged assault and well before Platner launched his political career, in which she cautioned the acquaintance against getting involved with Platner. In the messages, Racicot said she had “ended up in a bad situation with him,” describing Platner as “consensually careless” and saying he “doesn’t listen to you when drunk.” Reached by POLITICO, the acquaintance said she received the messages but declined to comment; POLITICO granted her anonymity at her request to protect her privacy in her Maine community.
very convenient excuses.
Her dog ate all the evidence of an allegation that at this time would ruin his political career, but somehow was not important enough to mention since 2021.
JFC, this is MAGA level delusion.
The party can still choose a new candidate if he steps down in the next week
If she were a political operative, she would have waited for the July 13 deadline to pass
Yeah, I generally agree with always believing a victim. But
This is going to be the legacy of Plantner’s campaign. Not that he was a fake-leftest, but that so many of his supporters turned out to be.
Sorry. I have a bullshit detector. She’s either not a victim, or at the very least, she cares far more about influencing politics than she does about seeking justice. It’s sus as hell. You’re incredibly naive.
We’ve done it, We’ve circled around to fake news.
This women has produced dated text messages discussing the assault prior to Planter’s campaign. That’s pretty solid this time. Plus the connection between these two can be corroborated. Additionally I’ve heard there are dated therapists notes, but I haven’t seen those.
The Epstein class will not be taken down by other rapists
Yes, you are spreading fake news.
Let’s actually be specific.
This women has produced dated text messages discussing the assault prior to Planter’s campaign.
This is the only contemporary digital record alleged in any of the stories:
Racicot shared with POLITICO a series of private Facebook messages she exchanged with an acquaintance in 2023, about a year and a half after the alleged assault and well before Platner launched his political career, in which she cautioned the acquaintance against getting involved with Platner. In the messages, Racicot said she had “ended up in a bad situation with him,” describing Platner as “consensually careless” and saying he “doesn’t listen to you when drunk.” Reached by POLITICO, the acquaintance said she received the messages but declined to comment; POLITICO granted her anonymity at her request to protect her privacy in her Maine community.
So, facebook messages, not text. And she didn’t discuss the assault at all, at least not beyond very general terms. And the people involved are anonymous. It seems she never explicitly said “he assaulted me” to her friends. She made vague allegations that could describe a lot of scenarios, some that would be disqualifying, some not.
Additionally I’ve heard there are dated therapists notes, but I haven’t seen those.
Please provide a source, not just “I heard.” Because the Politico and NYTimes articles make zero mention of contemporary therapist notes. You are spreading misinformation. There are therapist notes, but they’re not contemporaneous.
They’re not anonymous to Politico, they would have spoken to them and verified their identities. They’re only anonymous in the story to protect them from harassment from creeps who think they’re part of a conspiracy.
Holy shit dude, those messages are not ambiguous at all. Stop supporting rapists. You sound a lot like a MAGA cultist
They are ambiguous! Holy shit, stop supporting political opportunists, you sound like a corporate Dem.
“ended up in a bad situation with him,”
“consensually careless”
“Doesn’t listen to you when drunk”
This could describe anything from a guy who puts an unwanted hand on someone’s shoulder to full on rape. That’s extremely ambiguous! No where does she allege a rape or assault explicitly. That doesn’t disprove the rape allegation, but it’s also hardly evidence for it.
Rape isn’t the same accusation nor the same suspect accuser
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Nice false dichotomy.
I’d like neither, because that is an option. Still plenty of time for a different Democratic candidate
The old allegations weren’t credible. The new ones are. Simple as that.
So why hasn’t he been criminally charged?
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hopefully this will be a good lesson for the leftists that will vote for anyone that is
anti-jewanti-israelanti-epstein-classhorseshoe much?
My very first thought was “Again? Is this a recycled article?”
Aren’t there any independents, Green party, or Forward Party rep candidates?? FWD has an ethics and values section on their main page showing they mean business!
Vermin Supreme is right next door in NH.
Vermin Supreme the friendly fascist! He does know what’s best for you. I can’t wait to receive my pony.
Come on in. The shit is steaming and our eyes are burning and we got every kind of emotional take in the book.
once more into the breach
The woman came forward to the NYT earlier to get on record but held back the story until another accuser came forward. She has contemporaneous emails with her therapist dealing with the fallout and people in her life she told the story to around the time it happened who can confirm it, as well as woman she warned after cutting contact with Platner. These allegations are as credible as they get and some of the reactions to this story are frankly disgusting.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/07/06/graham-platner-sexual-assault-allegation-00987737
You misread the article you linked.
The woman, a 41-year-old Maine resident named Jenny Racicot, detailed the alleged incident to POLITICO in three interviews over the past two weeks. POLITICO also spoke with a man Racicot dated and confided in the years after the alleged incident, and reviewed documents, including emails between Racicot and her therapist and messages between Racicot and an acquaintance whom she warned against getting involved with Platner years before he ran for office.
Politico reviewed:
- Emails with her therapist (no date mentioned.)
- Contemporary emails with a friend (though the name of this friend has been kept secret.)
Any ambiguity is removed by the later sentence:
Racicot showed POLITICO recent emails with her therapist in which Racicot explained she was talking to the media about her relationship with Platner and the “sa/rape,”
Nowhere in the very article you linked does it mention contemporaneous therapist notes. You are spreading misinformation.
Fyi Politico is openly Zionist and told their staff to leave if they’re not. Why do people treat them as legit. I certainly don’t.
Yeah, smells like a hit job.
Politico, or any other outlet for that matter, can have a shitty editorial line on some things, and do quality reporting on other things.
You should be paying attention to the substance of the accusation here, which is about as credible as it gets. Not blowing it off because it’s from an outlet you dislike for a different reason.
And just like… Occam’s Razor, the guy with the SS tattoo being a bad guy isn’t exactly a wild leap of logic.
There’s even a famous skit about the exact symbol Platner had a tattoo of.
Yep. The Tapper interview, as disgusting as Tapper was during it, I mean this is as credible as they come. She also said she was prepared to vote for him, and that his kind of politics is what the country needs. Graham said there would be no more coming out. Its unclear where things go from here.
The double standards for each party is absolutely stunning.
Anyone even know off the top their head how many allegations, some even confirmed in FBI testimony, Don chomo has?
Not to mention the rape scrotus said he had to pay out.
Exactly. If our esteemed representatives in DC gave even a fraction of this same shit about an actual habitual pedophile and rapist – of his wife Ivanka, other children, and quite possibly his own daughter – sitting in the highest office in the land, what a different country we’d have today.
Some do, certainly, and I don’t want to dishonor the very real efforts of some on both sides to see the truth come out.
But as a whole, their concern about Graham Platner rings hollow as fuck. And at this point I’d vote for fucking Pol Pot raised from the dead before I voted for that dinosaur Susan Collins.
You can choose between a rapist or someone who supports, enables, and keeps in power an entire administration of rapists, including child rapists.
America!
Coming out exactly a week before the candidate can be switched makes this fishy…
If they wanted a real investigation, they’d have said it earlier. And if he is guilty, he can just pull a Cuomo and run anyways.
But if he’s innocent and cares most about beating Republicans, he might drop anyways like Al Franken.
Yuuurp. And 90% of people (even on here) are eating it up. Subverting primaries is a Dem past time
If it’s this easy to sling allegations around then progressive candidates everywhere are fucked.
Why bother voting when you can just accuse a candidate of rape? It’s super effective, apparently. Unless they’re a republican, at least…
Crazy thing about this is that there are just enough details that I believe it is real, but just enough missing pieces that it puts it in doubt…
- Platner was supposedly drunk af and according to Racicot and didn’t remember anything the next day, so it would be plausible Platner himself can’t recall anything about the incident.
- All the messages she sent to Platner are gone (Does he still have them? Platner never getting the messages and Platner hiding those messages are both plausible possibilities.)
- No official records of the incident, just her telling her therapist, boyfriend, and other friend, and the boyfriend repeated the story to Politico.
- Some fb message exchange with the other friend released, claims it was in 2023 but we can’t see the date.
- We don’t have the emails with dates, just Politico’s descriptions of them.
- The NYT didn’t confirm nor deny whether Racicot was one of the other accusers that spoke in more vague terms about his behaviour.
Yes, this is a piece that can make plenty of people feel vindicated about their hunches on Platner. But the way this came out and how the media jumped on this story while it has passed over oodles of testimony of Trump committing sexual assault, I can equally understand people being suspicious as well. And it is a playbook that can be trotted out whether there is a true story behind it or not, anytime there is a Democratic candidate for a position that didn’t come from a prestigious institution with everything given to them on a silver platter.
People are crying for “average” people to be part of government, this is an average person we got from Maine and now many are getting upset. People who haven’t had anything happen that could be construed as scandalous from their high school prom to now, where a story like this could credibly be denied, are shut-ins like me who aren’t interested in dating and wouldn’t seriously think to run in politics, or are well-educated with above-average wealth.
Yeah, people make it way too easy for the entrenched powers to manipulate them. At this point if the republicans hold onto a thin senate majority, I won’t have any sympathy for the dumbass voters who fell for such a transparent tactic again.
We won’t be able to fix our broken system until we stop proving that uncorroborated mudslinging works better than actually offering good policy.
People are crying for “average” people to be part of government, this is an average person we got from Maine and now many are getting upset. People who haven’t had anything happen that could be construed as scandalous from their high school prom to now, where a story like this could credibly be denied, are shut-ins like me who aren’t interested in dating and wouldn’t seriously think to run in politics, or are well-educated with above-average wealth.
Your argument is that there are so many rapists amongst average people that we have no choice but to elect them?
There are a lot of people who date and don’t rape people.
Jesus Christ.
I’m not saying every average person is a rapist, but since it’s a common enough experience (21% of women) despite underreporting: https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics/statistics-depth/, I’m saying most people could be believably accused of an incident like this happening in their lifetime. And people who have been long scrutinized in a political career or from an elite institution will tend to be able to stay clear of incidents like these.
And it’s an entirely separate issue, that unless Platner steps down, the election is currently a choice between him and an incumbent Senator that at best might say she is concerned about women’s rights being taken away but will do nothing, and at worst will support a party that plans to take even more rights away from women, including the right to vote. If one wants to hold a consistent position as to “blue no matter who”, the same applies for a potential rapist as it does a bland corporate dem, as it does a former policewoman, as it does a Muslim democratic socilaist.
Listen, as more info comes out verifying the claims from the Politico article or perhaps other revelations I think Platner may be best to step down. That’s his choice to make, but I think we should be measured when evaluating every accusation and claim of whatever nature, instead of getting in a frenzy.
I agree he should step down. I don’t think it’s helpful to push that this is the best representation we can find from average people. I’ve always been against “vote blue no matter who” for exactly these types of scenarios.
If one wants to hold a consistent position as to “blue no matter who”, the same applies for a potential rapist as it does a bland corporate dem, as it does a former policewoman, as it does a Muslim democratic socilaist.
We shouldn’t hold the position of “vote blue no matter who”. I can’t believe the discussion we’re all having is that we should vote for a rapist and that the ends justifies the means.
You don’t need to hold that position, I can tell that you haven’t and I respect that. It is, however a position that can be held amongst many opinions. My point is that, if it was employed in one of the other cases I mentioned, it should be employed here to avoid hypocrisy.
And discrediting and disbelieving rape victims is a past time shared by all political spectrums.
Fine. I have a solution that should make everyone happy. We elect Platner now. In turn, he promises to resign as soon as a credible and progressive candidate can be selected that will share his values. Platner can endorse that person, then the whole state can pressure Janet Mills to appoint that person after Platner resigns. He can win the election and then resign the day he’s sworn in.
“Believe rape victims” does not mean “hand the race to a corporatist Dem or a Republican.”
This would satisfy things, wouldn’t it? Platner wouldn’t actually get to serve a Senate term. Justice would be served. Yet, somehow, I think justice may not be your actual highest priority.
Al Franken leaving was so fucking dumb. What he did was so fucking minor.
I will believe the accusations by default but if he does not drop out, Mainers still need to choose the rapist (accused, alleged or not) over the supreme-rapist enabler who will help remove the right for women to vote and have bodily autonomy, continue reckless and expensive wars, subsidizing billionaire excess, and send US taxpayer money to Israel’s genocide while starving Maine. If Platner drops out, more likely than not, a replacement like David Costello may write many words in opposition to Collins’ party, but push for little action.
I think Platner has 48 hours to research to find if AIPAC or outside groups (not including Cheyenne Hunt & Reckoning Action, Racicot reached out to them supposedly) have unduly influenced the details or timing of this. Some kind of credible evidence to put the evidence behind the allegations in doubt would be needed else this whole campaign is possibly sunk. CNN’s Tapper is happy to jump on this story asking leading questions. ETA: And many outlets that would decry HasanAbi as an anti-Semite are readily citing him speaking against Platner.
I think Platner has 48 hours to research to find if AIPAC or outside groups (not including Cheyenne Hunt & Reckoning Action, Racicot reached out to them supposedly) have unduly influenced the details or timing of this
Politico, the website that published the story originally, is owned by unapologetic pro-Israel billionaires
I dare ask - why believe by default? What’s happened to innocent until proven guilty?
I won’t reflexively deny the victim. Trust but request verification. Platner is definitely presumed innocent but this is one where we still need more info. And it’s not at the standard of a criminal proceeding to determine whether people would want someone representing them in the Senate or not - rather it’s more like a job interview.
When it’s time to vote blue: “Platner the oyster farmer?”
Platner can’t win. The accuser has corroborated contemporaneous communications. He’s just going to lose.
Finding this out now is a gift - he can drop out by the 13th. Rs would love to have kept this hidden until then. Now he can be replaced by the 27th (I think?)
Jackson is being floated as an alternative, but I’d love to see Heather Cox Richardson drafted
Haha, that would be great, but there is no way in hell HCR has interest in that position.
Yeah for sure, but ambition for office is almost disqualifying. Just a daydream. I think Jackson is the obvious pick, but don’t know the method by which he could become the nominee
Anyone from president of the HOA to president of the US. If they want the job, they probably shouldn’t be put there. It would be an interesting twist on politics if a person could not want the position, not run at all, but still get elected and be legally mandated to do the job. I mean, it couldn’t be worse than the way things are.
HCR has already said she has no interest in running for office, and reiterated it just last week in one of her live chats. She apparently has the idea of public office suggested to her often.
And honestly she’d be wasted* in office: she’d certainly do well in any position, but no one could do in her stead what she is doing now for us.
*Not wasted in the Kash Patel sense, obv
Fully agree, but you just made me think she’d maybe be hilarious on Drunk History
“The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them. To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.”
― Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
Just hold a lottery for the senate / house seat. No politics, no filtering.
If Platner wants to defend himself publicly on this, and/or keep running, and/or sue the accuser for libel, he’s free to do any or all of that. As anyone who’s been around for a few cycles know, its pretty common for candidates and other public figures, when they first reach a certain terminal level of attention or fame, to get a wide range of accusations on business, personal matters, drug use, and past sexual behavior. Just because these appear to be conveniently timed politically, is not evidence for or against their veracity. If there is no actual juice to these accusations, then dealing with people who lob bombs like that into the middle of campaigns is a well-worn playbook that thousands of politicians have run and won with, and he’ll be fine. If.
Another aspect as to why this is different is because it’s so well substantiated. It’s like… Textbook. There’s so little to argue with.
The previous claims against him had none of that, and came from his direct opposition. That is suspicious. These claims are not.
That is suspicious. These claims are not.
You don’t find the timing suspicious? JFC, you guys are as delusional as MAGA.
If someone is raped, are they no longer allowed to tell anyone should that person be elected to a political position?
She warned multiple other women and has proof way before he even started his campaign
What proof. Why did she wait 5 years.
Very much with the “if.” I’d rather not add more logs to the everlasting bonfire of “women ignored for political expediency.” If it is fake, then handle it like a normal person instead of self-destructing.
There are no criminal charges because no prosecutor would waste time and money on allegations with no evidence, and delayed for 5 years.
The first one might have been a Republican hit piece, but this one is a lot more credible. The woman warns another woman about him years before any political stuff in chats.
But hey run the nazi-tattoo guy XD what could possibly go wrong.
This is why you disqualify the guy with the nazi tattoo immediately…
Anyone with judgements that bad us going to have more skeletons in the closet
This is what always gets me. It’s not like there aren’t hundreds if not thousands of people who want the job.
I felt this way during the Kavenaugh hearings for the SC. If someone has anything big that would disqualify them if true, even if it isn’t, why push that candidate?
It’s not a court of law. We’re not throwing them in jail. It doesn’t need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. They are just not getting a job they wanted.
I’ve seen people not get a job they wanted because they forgot a word during an interview. Why the hell can someone be credibly accused of rape and everyone’s like, “well yeah, but we still want them to get this job.” Just interview other candidates! There’s not a lack of people who would want to be a Senator or SC Justice or whatever. What the hell?
Why the hell can someone be credibly accused of rape and everyone’s like, “well yeah, but we still want them to get this job.”
This is built right into our government. We, the people, have said we don’t care about rape and rape victims. And now it’s clear that it doesn’t matter which aisle they’re on, people will support their candidate no matter what.
Stick a fork in him, he’s done. The endorsements will never come back, and there’s no way other politicians can recover from pulling an endorsement and giving it right back again.
Agreed though, the timing is SUPER sus.
Sad situation. Either way AIPAC won America lost
Maybe not. I just got done listening to Heather Cox Richardson – a Mainer herself – on the subject.
Noting that HCR has never offered a single word of endorsement for Platner (only that she thinks candidates for Senate should have some managerial experience prior to running) she now frames this as a great opportunity and lays out how Platner “was always going to be a heavy lift” because in a state that should be D+15, Platner has only ever run at +2. In addition, Collins has a dismal 17% approval rating, and there’s still time to get a new candidate. According to HCR, there are a number of qualified individuals in Maine who could step into the Democratic slot and not only be good candidates but actually win.
You may agree, you may disagree, you may be tempted to call it hopium and maybe you wouldn’t be wrong, but inasmuch as there’s still time to get a different candidate on the D side who presumably will not bring a history of sexual misconduct with them it’s not the worst thing, IMO.
That particular bit is at the 33 minute mark but overall it’s an excellent listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkDRcv1pzT4
Yet another purity test failed, why can’t we tolerate sex pest Nazis?! Is nothing good enough for you leftists?
First you don’t want genocide and war crimes, now you don’t support rapists! We all know she is a filthy liar! No people in positions of power would do such a thing. Except for all the ones in office who do. But those guys don’t count! They’re Republicans!
If being a rapist gets you cancelled by the left, then the left would rather lose than let a rapist in office!
Clearly she’s lying about all of it. Never believe a single woman when they confess they were raped by someone I like. That’s what MSNBC told me when Biden was being questioned for his actions and defended Clarance Thomas to enter the Supreme Court, known sex pest.
This is just filthy slander, just vote Blue no matter who he rapes!
People let some Nazi merc slide because he broke out the working class starter pack dialogue choices. We need to return to context clues and some basic morals. Having a Nazi tattoo is instantly disqualifying in any party but the Republican one.
Here’s the only picture I can find of the tattoo, and it’s a video of him singing Wrecking ball by Miley Cyrus, so bonus:
It’s a big black blob that I don’t think I’d clock as a tottenkopf, and Ive unfortunately seen a lot of Nazi tattoos.
A drunk marine 20 years picking a “skull and bones” off a flash wall in an eastern European country is 100% plausible. I spent too much time around junior marines as well and they really don’t ask any questions, they just go with shit.
Picking a tattoo a 12 year old would think is badass and not trying to find out what it means first 100% lines up with a Marines first deployment.
But like I said, I’ve unfortunately had to interact with full on actual Nazis in the past, similar to that timeframe even. The guys that intentionally get Nazi tattoos don’t just stop at one and theyve left a long paper trail of their racism long before that point.
If he got it cuz he was a Nazi, then it wouldn’t be the only obvious piece of evidence. A shit ton of people would have came out and said he’s a Nazi.
+1. Everyone says Nazi tattoo like it was a swastika lol. The Death Head was pretty well neutralized in 2007. It was in the same tier as barber wire, just an edgy thing people did. Call of Duty offered it as a official emblem you could put on your playercard lol. The ADL didn’t even consider it a hate symbol until 2020.
No idea how it is in america, but here in Germany most people would immediately clock it.
I’d never seen or heard of it till hearing people complain about him having it.
It’s on his chest, so usually underneath clothes.
It is an exclusively Nazi symbol. It hasn’t been neutralized at all, US Americans are just stupid. The goddamn thing is literally in every piece of media featuring SS officers. It’s in memes. It’s incredibly recognizable to anyone that actually earned their high school diploma. You can argue whether Platner knew what is was when he got it, but you don’t get to argue that the totenkopf isn’t an exclusively Nazi symbol, because it is, and that’s clearly what the tattoo was of. We’re not republicans, we don’t substitute actual reality with our delusions because it’s convenient.
As a child, I was actually interested it history; and, as an edgelord, especially interested in gruesome totalitarian regimes. I played a lot of war-themed games, inevitably many had Nazis. Of course the games aren’t usually historically accurate but led me to read more about the actual events.
I had seen the totenkopf decades ago but did not know this was a Nazi symbol until I saw the Mitchell & Webb skit about ten years ago. If you asked me for Nazi logos, I would have come up with the swastika, the SS lightning bolts, and the Adler (which is used by the good guys in the Contra video game series).
(album cover of Singles 1-12 by Melvins, 1997)
Can confirm, Americans stupid; we were never shown this symbol and now our country is infested with fascists.
It is unambiguously a totenkopf, the stylized skull that SS officers had on their caps. It is exclusively a Nazi symbol and is very recognizable as it is featured in basically any media featuring Nazis. It’s not similar to a totenkopf; it’s clearly and obviously explicitly a totenkopf. You can argue whether he knew what it was or is lying but we’re not going to entertain the idea that it isn’t what it clearly is. He had a prominently displayed death’s head on his chest for 18 years. It was, in no uncertain terms, a Nazi with a capital N tattoo.
In 2026 should someone have recognized it?
Maybe.
But we’re talking about 20 fucking years ago chief
You’re right, in the mid aughts we had completely forgotten entirely about Nazi Germany and there was no popular media prominently featuring Nazis in any way whatsoever and there’s just no way that anyone could recognize a regularly featured exclusively Nazi symbol worn by SS officers. Your Nazi apologism is showing again.
Yup. The people here are so desperate that they’ll accept literally anyone who gives them the most basic lip service. It’s pathetic.
It will never not be funny to me that people are totally okay with a pirate tattoo, but not a Nazi tattoo. Pirates routinely raped, tortured, murdered and pillaged.
Pillaged yes, raped/tortured? That’s iffy. Murder I’m sure happened, but take Blackbeard for instance, all intimidation, never had to kill anyone until he was attacked by the Navy and killed.
Many of the successful pirates like Bart Roberts had rules about rape.
Every crew had their own rules, but if you want to make a list of bad things pirates did you might want to put slavery at the top. Think there was more pirates that stole slaves and resold them then there were murdering people without reason.
Slavery should definitely be on the list, your right.
Pirates may not have raped people on the boats they took, because there often weren’t any. The pubescent cabin boys and powder monkeys were a different story however.
As far as torture, lashings were the standard baseline punishment. Edward Low was known to be particularly violent and liked cutting ears off people on ships he boarded. Keelhauling wasn’t as universal as media would indicate, but it was an actual practice.
