FD pointing out that a Australian breadtube expat living off the exchange rate in Argentine lifting terms verbatim out of the Turner Diaries, will never be anything other than the definition of wrecker bullshit is not FD being “a giant Zionist”
And as we all know, cracking jokes about a Black mans hair is a fine way to defend this apparently vital strategy of utilizing the Turner Diaries for pro-Palestinian activism…all the way from Argentina, yes this is serious and totally not racist behavior
Who cares where he lives. FD is uneducated on Palestine at best and is a giant Zionist at worst. BE exposed that. And he made jokes on his hair? Like this is ultimately more important that FD making excuses for genocide. Get that shit out of here.
I’d take FD’s half-educated self over your red/brown advocating nazbol cult leader anytime, FD is an old man who converged on the correct positions through honest means, BE is a nihilistic grifter who thinks his online faux-radicalism gives him permission to engage in transphobic and racist behavior
Also you’re rancid for pretending a rejection of the Turner Diaries as a resource is genocide-denial, fed posting par excellence
“Idk guys, when I said the problem of Israel requires a ‘Final Solution,’ I was just being antizionist and I don’t get why you’d balk at it. It needs to be solved and clearly it should be solved permanently, right? No, I have no idea how language works.”
Ok that is funny, you want a medal for saying he’s facetious? As opposed to joking Israelis needs a final solution, they are actually carrying one out…so spare me
The supposed neo-nazi lingo being “Zionist Occupied Government (ZOG)”, and him attacking “black hair” being him insulting the guy’s hairline, essentially clapping back on F.D. Signifier’s own insult.
First off, ZOG is totally Nazi, I actually expect you to get banned from Hexbear for that comment. But let’s engage with the fascist gaslighting you just did.
“What? Calling black people “Negros” isn’t racist! It just means black in Spanish. Typical leftists seeing bigotry when there is none there”
“What? Laws protecting watermelon farms after slavery ended? Those were just laws on not stealing watermelon, where’s the discrimination? The looney left making a mountain out of a molehill yet again”
“What? Sleeping with the fishes? That sounds fantastic! I thought riding the dolphins was cool, but getting to sleep next to one is next level!”
If you are so socially inept that you can’t understand that how terms are used in function matters more than what the dictionary says, then you have less social awareness than someone with level 2 autism. I may take things that literally in practice, but at least I understand the idea behind figures of speech and social definitions
If you are so socially inept that you can’t understand that how terms are used in function matters more than what the dictionary says…
So, here, nobody is using ZOG as a Nazi dogwhistle. In function, it is accurately used to describe how western governments are controlled by Zionists (hence the name, Zionist Occupied Government).
I’ve literally fucking seen Professor Dave use this. Nowhere else have I seen this used as a Nazi dogwhistle. Keep on dogpiling though 🤷♀️
eh. it was coined by neo nazis in the 70s. a lot of people either never knew that or seem to have forgotten it. i’ve had to explain it several times since Oct 7th 2023 because Israel finally getting the negative attention it has always deserved has resulted in a lot of people dragging out “ZOG” either because they’ve been fooled into thinking it’s an innocent anti-zionist term with no historical baggage, or that they can reclaim it from neo nazis, or that it doesn’t matter because it’s “accurate” or because they’re actually neo nazis taking advantage of the increased anti-zionist sentiment.
He used an acronym while debating FD signifier on why he’s illiterate on the issue of Palestine. Who cares about him using an acronym that isnt inherently racist but was evidently made by a racist, wild to derail a conversation to focus on that
Meathead is a term that has nothing at all to do with looks.
The drama slop strategy worked for Vaush cause he was more charismatic, better looking, an willing to go full blown racist. You’re a void of charisma, you look like a meth head, and your racism isn’t quite up to westernized YouTube standards. I know your hope is engagement, but it’s not happening… this is all I’m giving you. And no I won’t be responding to the false narratives you’ve been pushing lately cause honestly i don’t have to. Both you and I know this. In fact, I’m only here to offer help.
Did you actually read the exchange or not?
Edit: It’s funny how people upvote this comment anyways despite it so obviously not being accurate.
She may have misunderstood or misread or didn’t read the meth-head part, but the important piece in her comment was informing you that ZOG is absolutely nazi dogwhistle shit (no pun intended). It can barely even be considered a dogwhistle, it’s an open and known fact it’s neo-naziism.
Edit: It’s funny how people upvote this comment anyways despite it so obviously not being accurate.
I upvoted it because she’s correct on the point that matters, in this and other comments, while I don’t really give a shit about youtuber drama.
I swear to Satan that within the year “anti”-zionists like you will be saying that the Jewish Internet Defense Force are behind every post that isn’t sufficiently antisemitic.
I mean what can be said when this is the state of his fanbase, the Turner Diaries are apparently a vital tool in the fight against zionism, excellent politics, very useful
And sure fuck FD for being respectful, patient, and accommodating for the first 40 mins while that Austrian goblin rants at him about the necessity of a red/brown alliance, no FD cracking and a making quip is a valid permission structure for a cracker to start yapping about a Black mans hair huh? Hey HE’S GREEK THO
What do those four 8s in your name stand for by the way? I just noticed them after your dedicated defense of the Turner Dairies and you calling anyone who opposes using that book a “zionist”
You’re the one whining about race idpol like a Tumblrite douchebag, that was me mocking you. Did you catch that? Would you like to go back read the exchange again?
And sure fuck FD for being respectful, patient, and accommodating for the first 40 mins while that Austrian goblin rants at him about the necessity of a red/brown alliance, no FD cracking and a making quip is a valid permission structure for a cracker to start yapping about a Black mans hair huh?
Oh my god, you actually did it again, even after mocking me for doing it. And did we watch the same exchange? Because BadEmpanada was the respectful one, while F.D. yelled at him to call him the N word and said that he wouldn’t be engaging with his points because BE was “bad faith”, just like a true shitlib would.
You’re over here defending the use of the Turner Diaries and you have the gall to start yapping about “race idpol”???
Also let me clear for the last fuckin time, a Black man losing his immense patience at an Australian nihilist ranting at him about the so-called importance of a red/brown alliance will never in a million years be a form of permission to start cracking jokes about Black hair, now go kick rocks Nazbol
The supposed neo-nazi lingo being “Zionist Occupied Government (ZOG)”,
What is your argument? It was coined by Nazis, is used overwhelmingly by Nazis, and exists as part of a broader malicious representation of Israel and the “World Jewry” simply controlling governments rather than the reality of the imperialist bourgeoisie benefitting geopolitically from Israel and therefore supporting them.
It’s a very clear example of Nazis trying to hijack antizionism for the purpose of antisemitism and their race war ideology.
Yeah, and let’s also “reclaim” racial slurs by just using them oblivious to the actual social context of the terms. Come the fuck on.
So don’t let them take over accurate terms like this?
First of all they coined it, so they aren’t taking it over, secondly it is inaccurate because the government is not zionist-occupied, it is natively zionist. The term in its most direct denotative sense is already predicated on a whitewashing of the Nation and attacking Israel on the basis of being a foreign “other” rather than a genocidal appendage of the very same empire.
This is an absurd hill to die on. Just admit that it’s a bad term to use and go for trying to minimize the significance of someone’s choice to use it. I would still disagree but that’s a place where there’s a trace of actual discussion and not just you sticking your fingers in your ears.
So do you believe that the US government is secretly controlled by jews that are conspiring to eliminate the white race? Because that is what the term was coined to describe.
If you think that is accurate you can fuck right off.
Lol who said that. Zionists occupied. No one said jew, you did. You somehow conflate the two because of neo-nazis. Instead of focusing on why he even was using the term you are stuck in a circle talking about an acronym.
ZOG = Zionist Occupied Government, a term coined by a neo-Nazi named Eric Thomson in 1976 to describe a Nazi conspiracy theory that jews had taken over the US government and were going to exterminate the white race. I get that most people on this site are probably not old enough to know all the ins and outs of OG Nazi terminology but it definitely doesn’t just mean Zionist.
The term antisemitic was coined by an antisemite? So what now ? You can’t use the term antisemitic either to refer hate against jews and other sematic groups?
Why do you want so badly to use a neo-nazi dogwhistle? Also apparently pointing out something actually anti-semitic (not anti-zionist but shit like ZOG which is an actual anti-semitic dogwhistle) gets you called a Jewish supremacist. What even is your point here?
He went full racist during a “debate” with FD Signifier, attack on black hair and defense of neonazi lingo, the whole works
Full racist my ass, he was attacking FD Signifier for being a giant Zionist. Saying a government is owned by Zionists is not neo-nazi lingo lmao
Zog very specifically is a nazi term.
FD pointing out that a Australian breadtube expat living off the exchange rate in Argentine lifting terms verbatim out of the Turner Diaries, will never be anything other than the definition of wrecker bullshit is not FD being “a giant Zionist”
And as we all know, cracking jokes about a Black mans hair is a fine way to defend this apparently vital strategy of utilizing the Turner Diaries for pro-Palestinian activism…all the way from Argentina, yes this is serious and totally not racist behavior
Who cares where he lives. FD is uneducated on Palestine at best and is a giant Zionist at worst. BE exposed that. And he made jokes on his hair? Like this is ultimately more important that FD making excuses for genocide. Get that shit out of here.
I’d take FD’s half-educated self over your red/brown advocating nazbol cult leader anytime, FD is an old man who converged on the correct positions through honest means, BE is a nihilistic grifter who thinks his online faux-radicalism gives him permission to engage in transphobic and racist behavior
Also you’re rancid for pretending a rejection of the Turner Diaries as a resource is genocide-denial, fed posting par excellence
“Idk guys, when I said the problem of Israel requires a ‘Final Solution,’ I was just being antizionist and I don’t get why you’d balk at it. It needs to be solved and clearly it should be solved permanently, right? No, I have no idea how language works.”
Ok that is funny, you want a medal for saying he’s facetious? As opposed to joking Israelis needs a final solution, they are actually carrying one out…so spare me
Was “jack1488” taken or something?
seriously, very interesting choice of numbers
So it actually was “neonazi lingo” but it was a joke?
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
The supposed neo-nazi lingo being “Zionist Occupied Government (ZOG)”, and him attacking “black hair” being him insulting the guy’s hairline, essentially clapping back on F.D. Signifier’s own insult.
Is the name Ebenezer antisemitic?
First off, ZOG is totally Nazi, I actually expect you to get banned from Hexbear for that comment. But let’s engage with the fascist gaslighting you just did.
“What? Calling black people “Negros” isn’t racist! It just means black in Spanish. Typical leftists seeing bigotry when there is none there”
“What? Laws protecting watermelon farms after slavery ended? Those were just laws on not stealing watermelon, where’s the discrimination? The looney left making a mountain out of a molehill yet again”
“What? Sleeping with the fishes? That sounds fantastic! I thought riding the dolphins was cool, but getting to sleep next to one is next level!”
If you are so socially inept that you can’t understand that how terms are used in function matters more than what the dictionary says, then you have less social awareness than someone with level 2 autism. I may take things that literally in practice, but at least I understand the idea behind figures of speech and social definitions
So, here, nobody is using ZOG as a Nazi dogwhistle. In function, it is accurately used to describe how western governments are controlled by Zionists (hence the name, Zionist Occupied Government).
I’ve literally fucking seen Professor Dave use this. Nowhere else have I seen this used as a Nazi dogwhistle. Keep on dogpiling though 🤷♀️
eh. it was coined by neo nazis in the 70s. a lot of people either never knew that or seem to have forgotten it. i’ve had to explain it several times since Oct 7th 2023 because Israel finally getting the negative attention it has always deserved has resulted in a lot of people dragging out “ZOG” either because they’ve been fooled into thinking it’s an innocent anti-zionist term with no historical baggage, or that they can reclaim it from neo nazis, or that it doesn’t matter because it’s “accurate” or because they’re actually neo nazis taking advantage of the increased anti-zionist sentiment.
Yes, BE’s theory that we’re “owning” the zionists by rehabilitating the Turner Diaries
Also speak more on FD Signifier’s “hairline” Dreamy, I want to hear your full thoughts on the matter
If you think that ZOG is antisemitic, then I genuinely don’t have any words for you 😂
Insulting someone for their looks, then after getting insulted back crying about supposed “racism” is a pretty good tactic ngl.
“BE is Greek. I would really love to hear IDF Signifier’s full thoughts on how he looks like a ‘methhead’.”
Grow a fucking brain.
ZOG is literally a term coined by a member of a white nationalist movement that was explicitly pro Nazi.
Meathead is a term that has nothing at all to do with looks.
I mean in this case methhead was literally a comment on his looks.
He used an acronym while debating FD signifier on why he’s illiterate on the issue of Palestine. Who cares about him using an acronym that isnt inherently racist but was evidently made by a racist, wild to derail a conversation to focus on that
The drama slop strategy worked for Vaush cause he was more charismatic, better looking, an willing to go full blown racist. You’re a void of charisma, you look like a meth head, and your racism isn’t quite up to westernized YouTube standards. I know your hope is engagement, but it’s not happening… this is all I’m giving you. And no I won’t be responding to the false narratives you’ve been pushing lately cause honestly i don’t have to. Both you and I know this. In fact, I’m only here to offer help.
Did you actually read the exchange or not?
Edit: It’s funny how people upvote this comment anyways despite it so obviously not being accurate.
“BadEmpanada bad” 😯⬆️
She may have misunderstood or misread or didn’t read the meth-head part, but the important piece in her comment was informing you that ZOG is absolutely nazi dogwhistle shit (no pun intended). It can barely even be considered a dogwhistle, it’s an open and known fact it’s neo-naziism.
I upvoted it because she’s correct on the point that matters, in this and other comments, while I don’t really give a shit about youtuber drama.
Yes we dont tend to like racist, misogynist, transphobic assholes whose entire career consists of stirring shit and insulting people.
You’re just reaching to defend one piece of shit in an argument between two people with shifty takes.
ZOG is only used by nazis. Period.
I swear to Satan that within the year “anti”-zionists like you will be saying that the Jewish Internet Defense Force are behind every post that isn’t sufficiently antisemitic.
I mean what can be said when this is the state of his fanbase, the Turner Diaries are apparently a vital tool in the fight against zionism, excellent politics, very useful
And sure fuck FD for being respectful, patient, and accommodating for the first 40 mins while that Austrian goblin rants at him about the necessity of a red/brown alliance, no FD cracking and a making quip is a valid permission structure for a cracker to start yapping about a Black mans hair huh? Hey HE’S GREEK THO
Nah fuck FD for being a giant Zionist grifter. So cringe you are somehow projecting yourself onto him when he came out so bad after that exchange
What do those four 8s in your name stand for by the way? I just noticed them after your dedicated defense of the Turner Dairies and you calling anyone who opposes using that book a “zionist”
You’re the one whining about race idpol like a Tumblrite douchebag, that was me mocking you. Did you catch that? Would you like to go back read the exchange again?
Oh my god, you actually did it again, even after mocking me for doing it. And did we watch the same exchange? Because BadEmpanada was the respectful one, while F.D. yelled at him to call him the N word and said that he wouldn’t be engaging with his points because BE was “bad faith”, just like a true shitlib would.
You’re over here defending the use of the Turner Diaries and you have the gall to start yapping about “race idpol”???
Also let me clear for the last fuckin time, a Black man losing his immense patience at an Australian nihilist ranting at him about the so-called importance of a red/brown alliance will never in a million years be a form of permission to start cracking jokes about Black hair, now go kick rocks Nazbol
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
What is your argument? It was coined by Nazis, is used overwhelmingly by Nazis, and exists as part of a broader malicious representation of Israel and the “World Jewry” simply controlling governments rather than the reality of the imperialist bourgeoisie benefitting geopolitically from Israel and therefore supporting them.
It’s a very clear example of Nazis trying to hijack antizionism for the purpose of antisemitism and their race war ideology.
Removed by mod
If you continue to use or defend the term ZOG, you will be banned. We do not talk like Nazis here. Consider this your warning.
I believe that you are fully capable of understanding the historical context behind ZOG. You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?
Yeah, and let’s also “reclaim” racial slurs by just using them oblivious to the actual social context of the terms. Come the fuck on.
First of all they coined it, so they aren’t taking it over, secondly it is inaccurate because the government is not zionist-occupied, it is natively zionist. The term in its most direct denotative sense is already predicated on a whitewashing of the Nation and attacking Israel on the basis of being a foreign “other” rather than a genocidal appendage of the very same empire.
This is an absurd hill to die on. Just admit that it’s a bad term to use and go for trying to minimize the significance of someone’s choice to use it. I would still disagree but that’s a place where there’s a trace of actual discussion and not just you sticking your fingers in your ears.
So do you believe that the US government is secretly controlled by jews that are conspiring to eliminate the white race? Because that is what the term was coined to describe.
If you think that is accurate you can fuck right off.
Lol who said that. Zionists occupied. No one said jew, you did. You somehow conflate the two because of neo-nazis. Instead of focusing on why he even was using the term you are stuck in a circle talking about an acronym.
Jack with two 88’s is defending neo-nazi terminology? Wow. I am shook.
ZOG = Zionist Occupied Government, a term coined by a neo-Nazi named Eric Thomson in 1976 to describe a Nazi conspiracy theory that jews had taken over the US government and were going to exterminate the white race. I get that most people on this site are probably not old enough to know all the ins and outs of OG Nazi terminology but it definitely doesn’t just mean Zionist.
The term antisemitic was coined by an antisemite? So what now ? You can’t use the term antisemitic either to refer hate against jews and other sematic groups?
Why do you want so badly to use a neo-nazi dogwhistle? Also apparently pointing out something actually anti-semitic (not anti-zionist but shit like ZOG which is an actual anti-semitic dogwhistle) gets you called a Jewish supremacist. What even is your point here?
No, I don’t. Zionists don’t mean Jews, and they aren’t trying to eliminate the white race. I’ve never expressed this opinion.
No but the phrase Zionist Occupied Government was specifically coined to mean that.
Yes ZOG is literally a Nazi thing from probably before you were born. But sure continue to defend this reactionary trash person.