Basically that’s what they did with Ocean’s 11. The original Frank Sinatra version was shit. But it was a good idea, a crew of super cool dudes get together to rob a casino.
They remade it and it was very successful.
The Thing has a similar origin.
But it’s rare things like that happen because Hollywood execs usually need an existing property with good numbers to greenlight a movie.
For a second I thought you were trying to say that The Thing (2011) is a better remake of The Thing (1982), but then I remembered that 1951 version exists.
Ghost in the Shell was an unnecessary remake of a fantastic original animation that was improved by the series that followed it. There was never a need for a live action version.
Ghost in the shell was decent. They paid incredible attention to the art direction and casting ranged from perfect to acceptable. I can’t remember a single scene but their rendering of 90s retrofuturism sincerely blew me away. Maybe modern cinema has tainted me but it really wasn’t terrible.
It could have been an acceptably decent movie if it wasn’t trying to be part of the GitS franchise. As a GitS fan I hated it, but I wonder if it could have been more fun to watch if I was unfamiliar with the series. I remember thinking the same with a lot of movies based on books I hadn’t read like Percy Jackson, the movie became a lot worse after reading the source material.
It could have been an acceptably decent movie if it wasn’t trying to be part of the GitS franchise.
Yeah, I think this is a pretty common phenomenon. In the same vein, Discovery could have been a fun sci-fi show if it wasn’t trying to be part of Star Trek.
As a GitS fan I hated it, but I wonder if it could have been more fun to watch if I was unfamiliar with the series.
Yeah, this as well. I’m sure I would have enjoyed the Hobbit trilogy more if I’d never read the book. Still, there are such huge chunks of those movies that just feel like video game cut scenes—probably not the best example.
You mean take actual risks???
No, none of that for my profit margin
Word War Z.
Have it actually be a mocumentary with interviews. Once people start talking switch to the scene. It is a collection of short stories. Would be fun.
Or make it a mini series.
Personally I thought the book was good, but I don’t think an adaptation to a movie format is the right move. Maybe a mini series would be best.
Yeah I’ve never read the book but I’ve heard the movie was literally just a generic zombie movie that had nothing to do with the book.
It wasn’t even that it was a generic zombie movie, it was a particularly shit zombie movie.
Nah, it was fine for people that didn’t read the book.
Didn’t read the books and can’t remember much of the movie but one thing.
The way the zombies moved as a fluid.
That was the best depiction of horde behavior I have seen. The thought that they climb over obstacles by climbing over each other was brilliant and scary.
The zombie ant hills are burned into my mind as well. So fucked up and terrifying.
This is how we’ve ended up with 17 different attempts at the fucking Fantastic Four. Each one is shit, and EVERY director thinks that they’ve got the chops to make it work.
Hollywood…please…fucking stop. It doesn’t get better. It’s a cursed movie. Stop fucking trying to get the Fantastic Four to work. Just…put the poor thing out of its misery and let it sleep peacefully.
Ehh, some of them were to maintain Fox license from Marvel. They were contractually obligated to put out a movie every X years or they lost control of it. Mostly they just wanted something cheap or weird out of the door.
Now that Fox entertainment and Marvel have been gobbled by the mouse, it may not be a problem anymore. They sure got Reid Richards right in that doc strange film, even if he got obliterated on alternative earth.
How are our corporate overlord supposed to know what a good story is other than the success of a movie based in them?
They can ask chatgpt :D
Ironically capitalism does not like to take much risk, nor do the large companies who are best able to take them. It also sucks that many things are switching to being ads supported, so there is further limiting of creativity. For example, Love, Death, and Robots is a really awesome animated anthology. It is something that does not try to have the broadest appeal; however, the customers are now advertisers who may not want to run ads on something with a narrower audience. Oddly it seems Netflix will be going down the path of YouTube battling that to keep the content adverts will buy space for, and YouTube trying to be independent of it with its premium. Strange world.
Love, Death + Robots is amazing and everyone should watch it.
I would love a proper remake of Eragon. That movie felt so rushed, like they just chopped the meat out of the story and gave us the bloody mush instead of the whole thing.
They are doing a series right now.
They are?? How did I not know about this?
There were many news in summer that Disney is producing one for Disney+
Some older movies that come to mind: Enemy Mine. Great sci fi premise that was ahead of its time. Just plagued with bad effects and limitations.
The Last Starfighter Not bad even for the day but I think it’s a solid enough concept that could use a refresh. Set in the 80’s to get the retro video game vibe. I think it could even be a multiple movie property.
Masters of the Universe It was a goofy premise with some interesting characters that were wasted. Even the updated animated series didn’t do great. Or even go off in a space Western and do a Rio Blast movie.
Krull was really missing the visual elements to tell the story and it ended up cheesy and stilted (still holds some nostalgia for me though). It could still be a fun space fantasy.
Virtually every single bad adaptation can be directly traced back to studio interference.
Movies like LoTR only happened because the studios thought it would be a colossal flop, and so left the directors and producers alone.
If you want great movies, the studios need to leave the producers and directors the hell alone.
Counterpoint: Game of Thrones. The studio would have been happy to give them a few more seasons to develop a better ending. It’s the creators who gave up and phoned in the ending we got.
Writing is the only thing that matters. I point to “Everything Everywhere All at Once” and “Amsterdam”. The latter of which had 4x the budget.
Why not just read a book, then?
Looking at you, Dark Tower
Like Dune? Like Dune.
So basically remaking every movie starring Nicolas Cage?
You shut your damn mouth. Nicolas Cage is perfect.
Maybe they could do a crossover where all the Cage movies get remade with Travolta and vice versa
Wow! Like some kind of face off.
Well, there’s Dredd.
I don’t consider it a remake. The story is totally different.
What is wrong with Ghost in the Shell?
The (live action) movie sucked big time.
In what way?
In all of the ways, mostly. But most particularly in that it’s neither authentic or enjoyable. It’s just soulless cgi trash.
I beg to differ. After watching it again recently they used plenty of practical effects mixed with cgi. Hell it is a light year better than any recent Marvel or DC movies even. Few notes is the changes to the story. Which has been done each version away from the manga. The chief is amazing speaking only Japanese and fully rocking that roll. I hear many complain about the movie yet cannot sight actual examples that ruin the experience other than it is not like the anime. But if you have been following it like me since the original manga you know it is always been changed a little. But who would just want to keep watching the same thing over and over again in a different form.
Not interested in arguing with you. The box office, reviews, and general fan opinion disagree with you. It’s perfectly okay to like something most others don’t.
It’s called debating not arguing. If you cannot back up your own personal statement then I suggest your go back to Reddit. Or at least try trolling better.
I suggest you eat a dick, and go back to lurking incel subs shit head.
I don’t care what anyone says, the worldbuilding that was done for the 1990s Super Mario Bros. movie was awesome and if the movie had lived up to it, it would have been great.
Remember that when the movie was made, Mario was a plumber that jumped on mushrooms and turtles to save a princess and he had a brother named Luigi that did the same thing. That was pretty much the entire storyline they had to work with.
Video game movies in the 90s were always shit.
We had studios seeing green with franchises that had significant canon (remember, SMB, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat all had significant backstory in their manuals, but writers/directors who knew nothing of them except that it was something their kids/nephews were obsessed with.
MK was the only one to actually use a good portion of that canon, and it was by far the best of the three. Though the soundtrack did a lot of work for it too.
Super Mario Brothers would’ve been a fun movie if they didn’t try to tie it in with the game. It wasn’t canonical at all, and 8-year-old JasonDJ was quick to realize it.
I’m more optimistic of video game movies now, now that the Gen X and Millenials that were molded by video games are in the directors chairs, and these are now major franchises with significant investment.
Super Mario Brothers would’ve been a fun movie if they didn’t try to tie it in with the game.
That is very likely, although I still think it would have had big problems. John Leguizamo isn’t exactly a terrific actor. Funny guy, not a great actor.
But the worldbuilding they put into it was pretty damn impressive and they had some great ideas. The whole parallel world where dinosaurs didn’t die out but evolved into what look like humans but aren’t quite idea was pretty cool. Or at least I thought so.
John Leguizamo isn’t exactly a terrific actor
Luigi isn’t exactly a deep charter to act out. You don’t need a Shakespearian actor for a character whose main line is “whaaaaaaaa!”
Ayeee Leguizamo is technically a Shakespearean actor lol. That gun was pretty lit in the adaptation.
Haha true and also true!
