• specifically, he said he’s making the WH look like Saddam Hussein opened a Cheesecake Factory.

    CF is maximalist decor, Hussein had gold everything. it’s a solid, though workshopped bit, and deflecting from the Saddam portion to feign outrage is kinda the only retort.

    the opposite would be hilarious though. “Obama hates America, says WH is too glamourus for former ally, executed Baathist strongman.”

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      Honestly to me it reads like out of touch elite liberal unforced error. I agree CF is maximalist in its decor and kind of gauche, but the comment feels mean spirited in the kind of sneering contempt out of touch establishment democrats have shown towards “uneducated” Americans time and time again,especially coming from a guy whosw while brand was built around black excellence to begin with.

      • again: eliding the Saddam half of the bit.

        the Cheeseburger at CF is $20. it ain’t the exploited masses eating there between Uber Eats deliveries. now add half a million in gold leaf covered statues to that with a 24K AK-47 on display.

        there’s a reason all the clapbacks for this are coming from aged multimillionaires LARPing as the Voice of The People.

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          Yeah but even that is like a 20 year old bit at best, so no one cares about the Saddam joke because he’s been dead for over a decade. It would be like making jokes about Bin Laden’s hard drive, when no one who isn’t terminally online hasn’t thought about in 10 years.

          And I didn’t mean that the poor and huddled masses are eating at the CF, but in my experience for people outside of large cities and in suburbia, it can even be aspirational, or thought of as a “nice treat”. So it rubs me the wrong way that this man who has a house in Martha’s vineyard, who has made no secret his love for high cuisine and all surrounding bs, and who wouldn’t miss the opportunity to “eat like the proles” for a photo shoot is shitting on what (I assume many) people think it’s a nice, unpretentious spot to go for dinner on a Saturday.

          And to add to it, Obama’s whole thing has always been to draw a very clear distinction between himself and working class people of color by adopting white, upper class signifiers for him and his family (what I called black excellence). So this is a perfect opportunity to have an already hated enemy and criticizing him for his show of open disdain for anyone who isn’t as rich as him. It’s an unforced error because he didn’t have to go for a popular food chain. His speech writers (who are all as stuck up their own elitist asses as he is) must’ve workshopped this joke forever and I’m sure there are alternatives that aren’t as sneering and dripping with condescension as this one.

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        I listened to some of his speech the other day, the politics still suck ass, but he is a generational talent as a front man. Just sucks that he was/is on the wrong side.

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          I usually use him as an example of how powerful charismatic speech is. It’s hard to not get roused by his speaking and I gotta remind myself “Yeah this guy is an evil war criminal and is terrible”.

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            Not to overreference a certain quote that mentions Spider-Man and SpongeBob, but in Lebanon, our default “you gotta hand it to him, I don’t like everything he stands for but he sure can enchant an audience” figure was Nasrallah lmao

            Doubly impressive because of the speech impediment and because I promise you those who hate him hate him more than the Americans who hate Obama hate Obama. I know that’s hard to believe for some of you.

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            Totally, it is cool to see the political winds blowing Obama toward speaking for El-Sayed. I have major political disagreements with El-Sayed of course, but i do like him as a person, and he is a net good in the Senate.

            Once I hear him punch left or does war crimes, my opinion is gonna drop real quick. Hasn’t happened yet though.

            Anyway, thats as close as he is ever gonna get to being on our side. Pretty cool to see how he works the room.

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    I’ve never actually eaten at one, but my perception is that they are about the worst cost/quality ratio, but because they charge so much people convince themselves it’s good/fancy. No wonder MAGA loves them

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      My impression based on one visit is, it’s much like Dairy Queen or Friendly’s where the savory foods are just the thing you get through so you can get one of the myriad desserts. It does present itself as being a little elevated over the other fast casual restaurants, so I could see it being the favorite of that sort of exurban chud that simultaneously thinks of themselves as salt of the earth working class and bougie entrepreneur at the same time.

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      They’re pretty decent IMO. Better than an Applebee’s or an Olive Garden, not as good a local joint, much less a local swanky joint

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    Critical support to the cheesecake factory for clogging the arteries of our class enemies, I guess?

    Edit: meant to reply to the thread of Bessent eating there

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    The point is that the political media wants to go after democrats. They desperately want to cheerlead for the nonexistent reasonable republican, and so will search high and low for anything to criticise democrats for that isn’t something they also support as right of center American exceptionalists, so that’s why all the weird cultural signifiers get blown up.

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      Me: “P-please sir, can I have some more?” holds out slop bowl

      US Politicians: “MORE?!?!”

      obama-drone drone strike

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      As far as I’m concerned, this is original recipe culture war.

      Obama being lambasted for his taste and sensibilities, rather than anything he actually did while in power? That’s my childhood. Dijon mustard and a tan suit were the beginning and end of mainstream criticism of the guy who basically served W. Bush’s third and fourth terms.

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    Never eaten there, though I plan to at some point. I have had their bread that they sell at stores and that is good though. Idk why mfs crashing out over whether or not it’s the best/worst place, it’s a mediocre dine-in establishment and they’re acting like someone insulted In-and-Out.

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    Misleading post. The segment is about Obama mocking the way that Trump decorated the White House during Obama’s speech in Michigan. “There’s gold everywhere. What’s up with the gold? Everything… more gold! He’s got the White House looking like Saddam Hussein opened a Cheesecake Factory.”

    https://nitter.click/atrupar/status/2114072550426681781#m

    Trump seemed very upset and went on a vaguely racist rant. Trump said that Obama needs to be taught how to be clean because people like him like to live in filth. “Guy likes Obama don’t see it. He doesn’t see dirt. He doesn’t see filth.”

    https://nitter.click/atrupar/status/2114825717418770494#m