We should also stop everyone who is good at sports from playing sports, because they obviously have a genetic advantage. The only people who should be allowed to play sports are our weakest, most uncoordinated dorks.
finally, my time has come
Left leaning in the us is just healthcare support and nothing else
And these libs wonder why we keep calling them the moderate wing of fascism.
Social democrats are the moderate wing; Bog-standard liberals are just normal fascists.
I care about trans women in sports
I hope they have a good time
except for competitors and some of their family members i’ve never heard anyone care about womens’ sports except for:
usa winning the world cup
that wnba drama in the last couple years
and all this transphobia that’s astroturfed as fuck.
If it were we wouldn’t have any women’s leagues because there would be no need for them.
How is a Woman™ supposed to compete with a trans woman in chess? Clearly we need to distinguish the two and only let trans women play against men.
Chess has the dubious honor of housing some of the most spirited debate about gender segregation in sports. Women are allowed in the conventional tournaments, right? They’re either opens or invitationals. There were sparingly few women, however. They were made to feel unsafe in chess clubs and tournaments. People who develop poor interpersonal skills will take their frustrations out on them and then women to this day get DMs from their opponents (even when they are underage girls in the presence of their parents).
So they began hosting women only tournaments. They created women’s master titles - WGM (woman grandmaster) and the like. They have a lower requirement correlated with the lower turnout of women and so they don’t need to go compete in the open tournaments to hit their norms (beat a standing title holder to qualify for the title). You can almost call it a marketing effort more than it is the way things are ™. Well, use your imagination to determine what people have to say about it. Women aren’t as smart as men so they need their own chess tournaments. Why are men disproportionately represented in chess grandmasters? Women need chess tournaments to be woke or whatever.
But if that were it, then it wouldn’t be so hotly debated. You’d have an FAQ on the FIDE website and call it a day. You also have the reasonable arguments from women who hold the titles or otherwise participate in the ecosystem. Alex Botez had a video discussing it with her friends and said something to the effect of being embarrassed of her woman master title because she believed it encouraged women to be mediocre and not shoot for the real master’s titles. Then the counterargument is that without these titles and tournaments you’re not going to have as many women in the opens. You could feed a women’s chess club into a regular chess club. Women are empowered, perhaps not to the top, but through the beginning. But then you ask are they placated and made to feel less ambitious because they have these environments. So this makes for an interesting perspective.
In that context, trans women would benefit tremendously from the protection of a women’s tournament in very similar ways to cis women. Even some sort of “what if she makes it weird” argument falls flat because any woman there is capable of making it weird. The trans woman is not uniquely equipped to cause drama. A trans woman who would otherwise be excluded from the sport would find a safe space where the introduction to chess is more likely to be LGBT friendly and progressive, she feeds into a normal chess club with a couple bona fides, and she feels more capable of navigating an open tournament. At least that’s one school of thought. And the other school of thought is cynical to the idea not because she’s trans, but because she’ll be complacent in an open tournament and perpetuate stereotypes of being a woman.
Even a trans woman stomping a women’s tournament enters into that fierce and ongoing argument with the reasonable backing of other women successful in the sport arguing that there’s no reason to feel limited by being women and that superior chess can speak for itself. They should instead attempt to argue with each other as candidates for the chess world championship.
Obviously society would never produce structures to reinforce patriarchal views on sex and gender. That would be absurd. Women are clearly more emotional and thus shouldn’t be able to vote, the law says so! /s
Can someone share some links so that I can be scientifically educated and/or sensitised on this matter?
- https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7846503/
- https://www.transresearch.org.au/post/trans-women-in-sport
- https://theconversation.com/do-trans-women-have-an-advantage-in-sport-the-genetics-of-sex-are-complex-279647
From my crossread of the literature, advantages in endurance sports pretty much completely evaporate over 1-2 years of gender-affirming hormone therapy (most importantly lowering testosterone). Advantages based on explosive strength, especially of the upper body, last a bit longer, and advantages conferred by denser or longer bones (such as height) tend to last even longer. After about 1 year on hormone therapy for endurance and ~2 years for strength, the physical advantages of having gone through male puperty are not completely gone, but they tend to be smaller than the natural variation between cis women.
clearly
Argument from “It just is, duh”
“Left leaning” to these people means that they lean slightly to the left while Heiling Hitler.
“I’m as far left as they come and my friend is 20x more left than I am, and even she says the races should be kept separate and the lower castes are not meant to be literate.”
- Average Fedditor
They Sig Heil with their left hand
I’ve even heard “leftist” people criticize people that say associating with conservatives and maga people (ie racists) is beyond the pale. Because these “leftists” have friends and family that are conservative and maga 😂
Like dude. You’re just an aesthetically liberal right winger.
Love how the trans woman gets banned for being “hateful”, while all the transphobic pieces of shit can say whatever rancid stuff they want.

I saw world banned someone for an unconfirmed screenshot dm message, while people and comments in the same thread attacking people were either left up or given multiple warnings.
Get so much leeway when attacking those they are okay with being attacked
It’s the lib idea of “acceptable targets” no behaviour is too vile or amoral when it targets those who “deserve it.”
It’s the feddit.nl mods that banned her. On .world you can still see her comment, although the .world mods haven’t banned the shitheads either, so they’re still garbage
Oh this was in a completely different thread earlier today. And depending on the user I’m not sure they got completely banned
I looked at the rest of the thread and it boggles my mind that those horrific comments were just allowed to stay up. Are we federated with that instance, just curious?
Yep, we are
I don’t want to be too hasty to call for defederation since last time I did that, it turns out the cool instance owner simply hadn’t taken notice of the problem yet and resolved it immediately after, but I would say being tacitly permissive of transphobia should set the question on the table.
Gives me blahaj.zone flashbacks, what an absolute mess that was. So yeah, our admins definitely should take a look at that
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Any time I see “biological woman” (to describe cis women) or “biological male” (to describe trans women) used like this, it’s pretty clear to me the person using it is a rabid transphobe. Not only is it objectively wrong, but it’s clearly designed to try to dehumanize and delegitimize trans women.
Edit: wording
I am a machine woman, it is insulting to be called biological
Can’t forget the meat popsicles

They’re going down the well you can’t let certain people into women’s sports because they would have genetic advantages path now. I don’t think they’ll like being asked does that mean we need to remove that for all sports (the genetic advantages) like height
The problem here is having a conversation with a feddit user.
Fed is right in the name!
If only it was isolated to those users
Ironically I am doing the very thing I have criticised others for doing. Lemmy server nationalism.
Yes but also feddit does not fool well distancing itself. Just today saw one calling lemmy world mods nazis and tankie sympathizers for simply telling that feddit user stop being so hostile and hateful to other users.
Still got multiple warnings…
The people on feddit instead of lemmyworld are there because lemmyworld is too left wing for them.
This is like a Chapo bit. I’m a Pelosi supporter, so trust me when I say that my opinion is literally the furthest most left-wing opinion there is: all budget items apart from police and the military should be budget neutral.
very left leaning
She thinks that Kamala was only slightly too progressive!
Would’ve voted for Pete Buttigieg twice.
If we can light up a high school, we can light up a DNC primary event!
My very left leaning friend:

Weird how it looks like all the ones also saying it’s fine to ban only certain treatments from the rare/lucky ones on federal Healthcare




















