Seriously how are they wrapping their heads around that the racist hegemon wants to wipe both Palestine and Russia off the earth, and is funding their enemies in both cases?? Do they think the US doesn’t know where their interests lie?

US: Allied to Israel and Ukraine. Gives them billions in weaponry. Consistently votes against Palestinian statehood. Funds the murder of countless Palestinians.

Russia: Consistently votes in favor of Palestinian statehood. The USSR even fought a short war against Israel in the 1960s.

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    I was talking with two friends yesterday. Apparently they always supported Palestinians, but once they saw Hamas soldiers screaming Allah Ackbar and kidnapping civilian women, they are of the opinion that they’re not better than Israelis. “It’s just two Nazi Germanies fighting against eachother.” Was a banger I heard during that discussion. Another banger: “You don’t see Ukranians murder and kidnap civilians, do you? They are respectful of POW.”

    I tried my best arguing; to no avail. Whatever I said, I was countered with smth like, “well i support them too, but this kind of force is totally unjustified”. So in short I failed the argument.

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      “You don’t see Ukranians murder and kidnap civilians, do you? They are respectful of POW.”

      Like fuck they are. Even if we use only the Ukrainian sources, they routinely report Russian KIA:POW ratio as being way, sometimes even multiple times, higher than even during the most brutal fightings in the history of humanity.

      Meaning they, by their own admission, either kill or do not take prisoners.

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      When you always stand up for the small kid in highschool even though he’s been saying racial slurs

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    The top post on “dankmemes” right now “which coincidently has been doing the super edgy thing of agreeing with stayed department propoganda for the last couple years” is the shot from Rick and Marty of “20 minute adventure in and out” literally with putin crossed out and Hamas instead, Russia crossed out and replaced with haza and ukraine crossed out and replaced with Isreal.

    In case anyone was wondering if it literally is anything more than “but Ukrainians are white”

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    I rely don’t believe they’re putting any deep thought into it. They just root for who they’re told too.

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    Global capitalist chessboard. All ethics are an afterthought. ‘the ideas of the ruling elite’ etc… libs support what they are told to support. Politics are complicated who has time to investigate historical context?

    We are in an information war. That’s what it boils down to

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      Maybe it’s as simple as this: they have an underdog / martyrdom fetish.

      Palestinians getting murdered en masse: “thoughts and prayers!”

      Palestine fighting back: “Stop using violence!!”