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    I haven’t only read Wikipedia, I’ve read things such as interviews from former Chinese citizens saying that Google was banned, and on their search engine the tiennamen square never existed. Also, how is China becoming more communist? The government getting profits from wage-slavery isn’t becoming more communist, it’s becoming the center of capitalism. Even if the government weren’t making direct profits from wage-labor, they still make profits from things like taxes and corporations buying land. When the government is making profits from capitalism, they won’t go socialist.

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          And here the smug lib employs the “one word response” tactic, where they ignore everything you’ve said in your attempt to educate them so they can give a snappy comeback, which makes them believe they’ve won the argument.

          -checks another one off the bingo list-

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            And this one, a classic tankie argument, where they don’t engage in what I said but rather its format, thereby not acknowledging that I was engaging in hyperbole, not saying that the Chinese government erased mention of the landmark.

            keeps sucking my own dick -

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              Please, I want to go to fucking bed it’s 5 am—I started my pc again to write this to you—, stop making an ass of yourself, it’s too funny, it’s too interesting to see how badly you can post.

              keeps sucking my own dick -

              … I can’t. I’m at a loss for words.

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              Hold on ain’t no way did you just accuse us of not engaging with what you said LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO 😭😭😭 you’re a troll and should be mocked and treated as such

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                Because I don’t have the reading comprehension skills of a fucking carrot.

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              Enjoy your auto-fellatio in a solipsistic cocoon. Once you consume the seed of the self, you can contort your head up your anus to smell the wonderful odors of you recycling your own contents and never letting anything in.

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              You were proven wrong not just about your claim of erasure of the landmark, you were also proven regarding what you tried to say. Crying “tankie” does not make you less of an idiot.

              Calm down, accept that you were lied to and learn.

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      Maybe you should do your own research. Open report number 590 on this page: https://www.gov.cn/zwgk/2011-11/09/content_1989024.htm

      Oh look, what is it? The report of the State Council published on June 25, 1989 about the protests, from gov.cn themselves!

      saying that Google was banned

      Oh no how horrible, literally 1997. Can’t live without my google, especially when I don’t have a much better replacement such as Baidu. Nope, don’t exist. Only Google. Well, since 1998 only.

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        Are you denying that Google is a repository of information. Even duckduckgo is banned. They’re not even close to a monopoly. I’m making the point that they’re restricting information. Also I’d be happy to read article 590 if you could provide me with an English translation.

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          how is banning Google restricting information and why did you not touch on the State Council report about the 1989 Beijing protests?

          Since there is an edit: you can OCR the document and run it into an online translator. The State Council of the People’s Republic of China writes, understandably, in Chinese.

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      I’ve read things such as interviews from former Chinese citizens saying that Google was banned, and on their search engine the tiennamen square never existed.

      So what? They banned google as protectionism, this way their infant tech sector didn’t have to compete with an already established monopoly. Now China has their own alternatives to all these google services, and the profits of these industries don’t go to the West but stay in China. Plus the infrastructure is in China so it’s not a security risk.

      Also, how is China becoming more communist? The government getting profits from wage-slavery isn’t becoming more communist, it’s becoming the center of capitalism. Even if the government weren’t making direct profits from wage-labor, they still make profits from things like taxes and corporations buying land. When the government is making profits from capitalism, they won’t go socialist.

      China is in an early stage of socialism, with a primary goal of developing the productive forces. They have introduced market elements into their economy in a controlled manner to accelerate their development of the productive forces. Taxes don’t banish into politicians pockets, financial paradises or into the MIC like in the west, it goes into development.

      Communism is a stage of development, you can’t just push a button and become communist, it is a process that takes decades of work and correct policy to build.

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        No decommodification, no worker owned capital. The US is in an early version of socialism too I guess.

        Edit: guys it’s called sarcasm

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          You see why reading the books is important? Cause you avoid saying dumb shit like this

          Edit: mans said they were being sarcastic, cause sarcasm is when you’re just straight up incorrect and can’t back it up lmao

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      You do know the Tiennamen square is the literal most famous place in China right? It’s the place where there is this super famous building that is one of the country’s symbol and that almost every content about China ever can’t help but have at least one picture of.

      So saying that the name of the place is censored in China is completely ridiculous.

      As pointed out by others, the event that you are referring to is known in China as the june 4th incident so yes, of course if you type Tiennamen in the search bar you won’t find it, when you look up something on a non-english website maybe try to look up how the thing you’re looking for is called in the site’s language instead of assuming it’s called the same way in english you westernbrained monkey.

    • tiennamen square never existed

      I know what you mean. But I am going to take it at it’s litteral value, because it is so much funnier to think that someone said “Tiananmen square doesn’t exist”