Meh. I’m staying here. Reddit has been getting worse. The future should be federated, not centralized, so hopefully that stuff Reddit just did has very little chance of happening again.

Imagine we’re at the point where the Titanic has split in two, and the remaining portion is held afloat by trapped air. You can patch the hole made by the iceberg, but it probably won’t change my plans too much.

The damage is done. The administration at Reddit has shown they will do whatever it takes to stamp out dissent… except for actually listen to the users.

Can Reddit also un-slander the 3pa devs?

I might end up on Reddit when googling for answers but I wouldn’t go back full time. It has been very clear from the past few days that spez and co are not to be trusted. I like kbin a lot, I feel adults are having actual mature conversations instead of the insult matches that happen on Reddit. And I have contributed here more than I have in the 10 years of using Reddit.

For me, it’s not just that they screwed up the API changes, it’s that they’ve repeatedly kept doubling down since then.

It’s also … I keep thinking back to Ellen Pao. They brought her in knowing that they wanted her to get rid of FPH and Victoria, knowing that at least the FPH thing was going to make her a target of the misogynistic GamerGate haters and bringing in a woman anyway, and they deliberately and repeatedly refused to give her any public support. It was completely reprehensible, and they cheerfully scapegoated her and kicked her to the curb when it was done.

As bad as that was, I also see elements of the same thing happening here, where this is a highly unpopular change, and there’s no one else from reddit speaking up to support spez. I think they’re going to have him force through the changes and then kick him to the curb like they did Ellen. They’re not going to reverse any of the changes - it’s what they want, after all, but they’re going to let spez take all the heat and go on their merry way completely unphased.

To be completely honest, I think spez deserves this: his job as CEO is to have vision, manage public relations, and handle crises, and he’s miserably failed at all of those. He misunderstood reddit’s most valuable assets (it’s commentary and the large group of people contributing and moderating the site for free), and he literally paid the API fees for some very profitable and potentially profitable companies to suck every piece of data from reddit; then he publicly targeted small publishers who enhance reddit instead of presenting them as collateral damage of the AI wars (I suspect to avoid bringing attention to his incredible lack of vision in letting everyone freely harvest data for their own lucrative products). And he’s clearly failing in the PR and managing crises front as well. But I truly believe that everyone at reddit is perfectly happy to let spez do this thing that they want done, and then they’ll throw him away when it’s done in an attempt to appease the users.

Anyway, your question is “what will I do if reddit undoes the API changes”. Given my beliefs, I simply don’t see how I could possibly trust reddit management ever again. And trust is a really big thing with me; I don’t think I could ever go back.

Unless you’re reddit management, here to gauge user temperament, in which case I will totally return if the API changes are undone, yes, of course I will, just trust me!

Reddit has clearly shown their priorities. If they change the policies now, they only do it for the money, not for the users.

After Steve’s behavior and treatment of the mods and developers, I wouldn’t go back if they paid me. Even in the best case scenarios, they can’t undo the damage that’s already been done.

I’ll stay here, I don’t tolerate being treated like sh*it as they did, it’s totally unacceptable. Even if they apologized, they shown their true colors, we know they would be lying.

I came here a couple of weeks ago and since then I did my best to be involved in lemmy communities so as to not miss reddit, and you know what? It worked :)

I’m not deleting my account because I want my data first (sent a GDPR request), but I don’t really care anymore about what they do, nor I care about reddit as a platform, engagement here is much higher quality.

Still following news because it’s entertaining, I love how the community got creative with the protest.

I never really cared that much for the API. I just didn’t like the company and how its CEO behaved, and I truly enjoy watching fediverse taking off so here I am.

I think everyone reading this from kbin or lemmy left out of principle, so they should also stay away from reddit out of principle.

oh that boat has so sailed.

In my case? Nothing. They thoroughly burned that bridge. They would have to rebuild it, and merely returning to the status quo after showing their hand isn’t enough.

Lmao even if it weren’t just no out of principle, after spez’s comments about how Twitter under Elon is a model for Reddit to look to - why would I waste an ounce of energy on such a platform?

Imagine if your partner is abusive as fuck and took advantage of you for years, and you managed to go away from them, then they stop being abusive and say they won’t be like that again, How can you be sure that they’ll stay that way? What keeps them from acting like a total piece of shit again?