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        It’s as if, like, if you are a woman, and also in a disfavoured racial category, like, where they, uh, have overlap? Where they meet? It’s not the same as either one individually but its own, I guess nexus? I feel like there’s a better word for this

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          I think it’s called a “double minority”, but being a woman isn’t really a minority tho (edit: not a minority in the context of being 50% of the human population) so I don’t know if theres a better term than that.

          I feel bad for people who are black, lesbian, neurodivergent, and trans-woman… like that’s a quadruple minority.

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            That’s not what minority means in the sociological context. Volume is mathematical. Poor people are a minority and there’s more of them than the 1%. Being a minority is about lack of power, prestige and property. And intersectionality is the more formal term, but ‘double minority’ gets the point across.

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          @ReiRose@lemmy.world has it right, the term and idea is intersectionality.

          apropos of nothing, intersectionality came out of critical race theory’s analyses of black womens outcomes in the legal system. the particular combination of oppression is literally the textbook example.

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      The funny thing is that in my experience female programmers usually have above average skills. I suspect it’s exactly because of this bias against women in tech. Where an average or below average dude can easily get by, this is much harder for women. As a result this bias acts as a kind of filter which results in female programmers being on average a little better than male programmers because all the average or below average ones get filtered out early.

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        Here’s hard data to match your experience:

        “This paper presents the largest study to date on gender bias, where we compare acceptance rates of contributions from men versus women in an open source software community. Surprisingly, our results show that women’s contributions tend to be accepted more often than men’s. However, women’s acceptance rates are higher only when they are not identifiable as women. Our results suggest that although women on GitHub may be more competent overall, bias against them exists nonetheless.”

        https://peerj.com/preprints/1733/

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        I might add, in the hostile environment women may feel compelled to try harder at least to make a point. As in, “I’ll show you what I can do”.

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      This is also common in the guitar community. Some women can shred like mofos, and here comes Jim-Bob McGraw saying their playing is tracked etc., ad nauseum

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      Even more rage inducing these comments would be the same if she wasn’t conventionally attractive.

      Fucking programmers need a solid clip around the ear.

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    I was so glad we had a woman join our dev team some months ago. It’s more fun, more relaxed and we are able to get better results as we just cover a wider area of skills. People gatekeeping programming to include only men are idiots.

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      That poor girl. My gf’s only female teammate quit last month and i suggested she start grinding leetcode asap. Could you imagine being the only woman on a team? Pretty strong indicator that something is very wrong there.

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        Eh, my team is this way, but it’s because we’re aerospace adjacent which further compounds the problem. The only woman on our team is awesome and everyone gets along great. No one has an inflated ego or feels the need to one up each other though, which tends to be the root of the issue in my experience. Lots of tech bros feel the need to put others down, and see women as an easier target unfortunately.

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        It’s the same thing with any kind of diversity. Not an expert, but anecdotally, it seems to work better if you start adding diversity at the top. At least people at the senior+ level are generally more comfortable being outliers.

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    Tbf, the original photo was already discounting her abilities. Saying “can program code” for a lead SWE is saying like “can do calculus” for a physicist.

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      In their defense, maybe the post was written by some journalist with no technical background at all and doesn’t know the difference.

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        Journalists are expected to do better. Otherwise, just hire anyone because even someone without any formal education could do better

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      Also, once you’re moderately good at programming, language doesn’t matter much. You can pick up a new high level language relatively easily if needed. Low level languages might be harder for some people though, because it takes a fairly different mindset. Personally, I love low level programming, though it’s not very time efficient to write.

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        Yeah, once you’ve got a few languages under your belt, it’s all about concepts. If you end up learning a new language that follows completely different paradigms, you are back to square one. But most of the time you can go like “Ah, so concept X of the new language works similar to concept Y of that language I already know.”

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    It’s annoying sometimes that people just assume that those who don’t work in tech are completely clueless about tech.

    It’s also really funny to mess with people who assumes that.

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    Am I the only one that doesn’t think it’s a waste if a gorgeous person does modeling/acting? If I had a body people wanted to ogle I would be using that power 24/7 instead of sitting here in a shitty office under fluorescent lights pretending to care about work while they pretend to care about me.

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    I manage a software engineering organization at an aerospace company and if I had to rank all my folks, the women would be disproportionately high on the list. It boggles my mind that anyone would discount someone’s programming ability because of their gender.

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    Whenever I see someone taking down these absolute bottom of the barrel incel dork on social media, it just feels like shoo-ing a squirrel off the bird feeder. Just not even worth taking action

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    Some fragile male egos in this thread. Looking forward to your complaints about the Barbie movie. Sad and pathetic.

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      I don’t know what you’re talking about. For me the fragile egos are way down the thread, all massively downvoted. The absolute majority is supportive.

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        Because that’s not what the movie is at all. It actually spends a fair amount of time mocking consumerism and hating on the negative impact barbie has had on women’s self image and feminism. It’s actually pretty crass with a lot of offcolor jokes. It’s more targeted to adults who had Barbies as kids during on the 80s/90s.

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          I did the Barbenheimer double bill. The one that felt like a.commercial was the “YU ESS EH” nature of promoting American War interests.

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            Oppenheimer forces the viewer to strongly consider the awful thing that was done those two days.

            I’m as critical of the US as anyone I’ve met but your take is bizarrely ignorant to what they were trying to do. I feel like you’d have to be intentionally missing the point to come away thinking that movie was pro-america in any way.