• Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    You’re welcome

    To be clear a lot of the Ukrainians serving in those units were aligned intellectually with the Nazis. It’s a complex story, you know. Not all a good one.

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      1 year ago

      I had no idea Ukraine’s history until Moscow invaded them over a year ago. Since then I’ve learned a lot about Ukrainian history, which helps immensely provide better context in an area I otherwise would know very little. Still not an expert, but when you know more of the complexities like you mentioned, it helps to show the bigger picture so things end up making more sense. Thanks again.

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      1 year ago

      Including most of their leaders, so the title of the post is correct. Yeah, surely every group of Nazi collaborators has its history.

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        1 year ago

        It’s like Americans celebrating the people who founded that country, even the slaveowners. They’re not celebrating that part of the life of the founders, and it certainly colors the perception of people like Thomas Jefferson, speaking noble ideals about freedom while owning and sometimes raping his slaves.

        These are people who fought for Ukrainian independence. That’s something to celebrate, even if it’s tainted by who they fought for and with, and at times, what their personal beliefs were surrounding issues like race and religion.

        This is a complicated historical topic to Ukrainians. It’s not them celebrating Nazi collaboration.