New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham has issued an emergency public health order temporarily suspending the right to carry firearms in public across Albuquerque and surrounding Bernalillo County.

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    10 months ago

    It’s already illegal to carry a firearm and commit a crime…you wanting to make it double illegal? No this talking point is exactly that, a spot on assessment that laws like this only attack the law abiding gun owners. That’s exactly what they’re designed for, to create more criminals.

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      10 months ago

      Do you really not understand the concept behind adding charges to extend sentences? It’s why Trump has been indicted so many times.

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        10 months ago

        This is great if you assume all gun carriers are going to commit a crime with their gun.

        The problem is this order can be used to attack people who are otherwise doing nothing wrong, who might be caring explicitly because they want to protect themselves from the crime wave this order is trying to address.

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            10 months ago

            The answer to the drug abuse epidemic isn’t more drugs either. But banning drugs didn’t do anything to help communities nor will banning guns.

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                10 months ago

                Social safety nets.

                Things like: Universal health care, stronger worker protections, better welfare support, better maternal/paternal assistance.

                People making enough money to support themselves, aren’t in constant danger of layoffs just to boost profits, can access physical and mental healthcare cheaply, aren’t financially ruined because they have a baby and new a few months off work, and aren’t in danger of losing everything over an emergency room visit aren’t out committing violent crimes.

                Focusing on “gun” violence ignores the root cause of violent crimes regardless of the weapon of choice.

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                  10 months ago

                  Every other country has problems too.

                  That’s just pointing to another problem and hoping people get distracted by it and not pay attention to the guns.

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                    10 months ago

                    I didn’t say those were problems to distract from gun violence. I said those things are a solution to violence more broadly. And as a bonus, those social nets help everyone while not violating this country’s fundamental rights.

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      Why do you think there are laws prohibiting the possession of certain items or substances at all? I mean, why should a law abiding citizen owning a bomb, a sample of smallpox virus or a few pounds of heroin be a problem? Crimnals will get them anyhow and if they use them, it`s already illegal. Why is driving while intoxicated illegal? Wouldn’t it be sufficient if only causing an accident while drunk driving would be illegal? That would certainly be way easier and cheaper to police. Why do we have building codes? Unless the house collapses or blows up, nothing bad has happemed yet.

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        10 months ago

        Are…you assuming there are no gun laws out there? This is just dumb logic…there are over 20k laws on the books for guns…