• Prethoryn Overmind@lemmy.world
      10·
      7 hours ago

      Linux user complaining about having to add repositories manually in order to get a piece of software to update or to add a tool they need.

      Me as an any operating system user. Both have draw backs that aren’t for normal people.

  • Cock_Inspecting_Asexual@lemmy.world
    10·
    7 hours ago

    I’ve been bombarded with Shit about Linux ever since I signed up here.

    CAN SOMEONE PLEASE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME THE CRAZE BEHIND THIS DAMN OPERATING SYSTEM?!!! I just dont fukin get it! Whats so special about it😭😭

    • gerryflap@feddit.nl
      3·
      44 minutes ago

      Lemmy generally attracts the same kind of person that would also use Linux. Both of them are open source and community driven alternatives to software otherwise provided by large corporations and milked for every last cent. Both of them require just a bit more knowledge in order to comfortably use them. Linux with all the distro’s and desktop environments, Lemmy with all the instances and apps/front-ends. We’re very much a bubble here.

    • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      8·
      4 hours ago

      There are political, practical and aesthetic reasons to choose GNU/Linux as an operating system.

      Political Reasons

      The Linux kernel, various components from GNU, a large part of the software library etc. are released under Copyleft licenses such as the GNU Public License (GPL), which cannot be revoked. This prevents a lot of evil shit the corporate world likes to do with software. It also menas it can’t be taken away; My license to copy, examine, modify and redistribute the Linux source code is irrevocable.

      The kernel and much of what goes into a Linux OS these days are largely developed by larger corporations (Red Hat is now owned by IBM) but a lot of the app ecosystem is community driven. A lot of applications in the Linux ecosystem exist because someone wanted the tool to exist, not because someone begrudgingly accomplished something to increase shareholder value.

      Practical Reasons

      The vast majority of Linux distros are provided free of charge.

      The majority of Linux distros are lighter on system resources than Windows; Windows’ system requirements have forced a lot of perfectly functional hardware into retirement where they run just fine with Linux.

      With a few notable exceptions the Linux ecosystem is free of the ads and spyware built into Windows these days.

      Microsoft has a habit of rearranging their UI kind of for the hell of it, meaning constant retraining for users. In the Linux ecosystem, only Gnome is in the habit of making drastic unasked for design changes, and it’s very much not a user’s only choice.

      Microsoft has a lot of monetary incentives to be user hostile. Not a lot of people use the Microsoft Store to search for software because much of the software the userbase wants competes with a Microsoft product, so they aren’t found in the store. For example, Edge is the only web browser found in the Microsoft Store. Microsoft will not distribute a product that competes with one of their own. A typical package manager on Linux is full of actual useful software and is the preferred way of managing software on Linux. In fact, Windows is basically the only platform that hasn’t managed to make a package manager or app store the default way of handling software.

      Microsoft has been eroding the end user’s ability to control or even own their devices. Linux does not become unusable for several minutes due to updates the way Windows does. Linux doesn’t routinely take away features the way Windows has been doing lately.

      Aesthetic Reasons

      Windows is becoming less customizable as time goes on. Linux is only getting more impressive. It’s not difficult to make the experience YOU want on Linux. Windows doesn’t let you put the Taskbar on the side of the screen anymore. Get a load of this, I’m using Fedora KDE right now. By default there’s a thing that works very much like the Start button on Windows; icon in the lower-left corner that pops up a menu from which to launch applications. I can right click that, click “Show Alternatives” and I can have a full screen thing similar to the MacOS launcher, a smaller cascading menu type thing that works like the Windows 85 Start menu, or by default a two-pane thing that’s more typical of Linux systems. It’s just so much more flexible.

    • ugh@lemmy.world
      12·
      7 hours ago

      1. Windows is a privacy nightmare. The OS is constantly sending data to Microsoft while being used.

      2. Windows hogs resources. If you don’t shovel money out for new hardware every few years, your computer will run like shit.

      3. Windows is full of ads.

      4. The majority of malware is written for Windows. Not really a selling point for me, but it’s a bonus.

      5. Linux is free.

      6. Linux doesn’t force updates. You update when you want to, and it takes less than a minute to do.

    • SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip
      10·
      7 hours ago

      Think about why you joined Lemmy. Reddit has been getting greedier and greedier, so you left to a place where the grass is greener. The same thing is true with Windows and Linux (and Linux is also much more big and mature than Lemmy). It attracts the same kind of people.

  • lustyargonian@lemm.ee
    50·
    12 hours ago

    I met a vegan who uses vim and arch linux. I’m that guy. I use vim and arch linux, and I’m a vegan.

    • gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      1·
      3 hours ago

      i used to use arch but it kept deteriorating over time and it was fun to fix but now im in year 10 with board exams next year lol(i dont have time for that)

  • umbrella@lemmy.ml
    34·
    14 hours ago

    well duh. windows is the default everyone uses, no one needs to recommend it.

    linux on the other hand is an obscure choice that may be better for that use case and may not be known.

  • Thorry84@feddit.nl
    882·
    17 hours ago

    Windows 11 has changed this, many many people now warn other people about not using Windows 11 because it is such shit. Doesn’t matter what you run, just don’t run Windows 11.

    • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      31·
      6 hours ago

      I gotta be honest, I actually really like windows 11.

      Recall is awful and I hope enough pressure keeps it away (or at least as something you have to manually turn on). But besides that it’s mostly just windows 10 but better. I get better battery life, better performance, I actually mostly like the UI changes etc.

      Also does nobody remember all of the hate for 10 when it first came out?

    • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
      2·
      8 hours ago

      I literally can’t install Windows 11 on my current computer lol. I know there are workarounds for it but I don’t feel comfortable doing that for my primary computer.

      • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        1·
        6 hours ago

        I actually really liked both windows 8 and Vista too.

        8 was slimmed down and optimized vs 7. Bootup time on my HDD equipped machine halved, performance was better, and the search was so good I never actually saw the start menu because I’d just blindly hit enter and it opened what I wanted.

        Vista had a rough start because they basically had to start fresh with drivers. But I bought a nice new machine about a year after it came out and it ran it flawlessly. Aero looked (and still looks) so cool, and XP was just a crusty old OS by then, let alone 2014 when it finally lost support.

      • Revan343@lemmy.ca
        2·
        10 hours ago

        That happened with Windows 8 and Vista as well. There was a running joke that every other Windows release was garbage when I was growing up.

        And the joke works with 8 and 10 both being shitty, because they skipped 9, which would have been the good one.

        They really should have gone with Windows Nine, to bring the naming scheme in line with Xbox One while also avoiding the startswith.('Windows 9') issue

    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
      39·
      15 hours ago

      No… I’ve literally only seen this on Lemmy. I’ve never once encountered anyone in real life that does this.

      Edit: and to add, people really don’t like this. I love Linux, but hate this community at this point. It’s disingenuous and I see blatant lies all the time about where I’m going to see ads in windows. I’ve yet to see any ads at all so far.

      • michaelmrose@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        14 hours ago

        Obsoleting a lot of relatively recent fast hardware means people are either faced with a fuck off or complicated work arounds. Then there is forcing people to log in with their MS email account which they may not have or want or again forcing people into complicated work arounds. The implicit privacy issues of recall if it was rolled out as planned.

        Ads in the windows UI both exiting and planned. The fact that they have discussed the idea of making Windows a monthly/annual fee.

        Then the carry overs from 10 The fact that the start menu search is less useful than any linux DE or windows XP Re-enabling crap that people disabled on purpose Certain kinds of links opening in Edge even if people use chrome

        • tee9000@lemmy.world
          2·
          14 hours ago

          Wait i have w11 in my laptop… i dont have a windows account sign in. Is that a forthcoming change?

          Ads are fucked, thats fucked.

          But it mainly seems like microsoft policy, not necessarily w11 itself is the issue?

          I ignorantly think a monthly subscription would never happen and we’d see mass linux adoption.

          I have a dual boot in my near term plans for my desktop. I would pull that trigger immediately if ads or subscriptions materialized.

          • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            1·
            6 hours ago

            Pro or Home? It looks like home is going to try to force you into a microsoft account a lot harder than pro. There are a couple of tricks to bypass it in the OOBE. But if you do sign into an MS account you can go into settings and there’s a button somewhere to switch to a local account. You’d just have to seek that out and it’s a pain.

          • J'Pol @lemmy.sdf.org
            6·
            13 hours ago

            iirc it is during install now. You have to do things that are way beyond the average user’s knowledge or ability to enable a local account.

          • michaelmrose@lemmy.worldEnglish
            5·
            13 hours ago

            Ads are…already a thing. Shit like putting candy crush which allows you to spend real money to pay to win. Search suggestions in the start menu. The app store is an attempt at an Apple style money grab except the money grab only exists on the apple side because its the only way to get apps on the machine and MS never got much out its store in comparison.

            Ads and subscriptions would already have happened if they had succeeded in using secure boot to lock machines out of alternative OS

  • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
    65·
    19 hours ago

    I would always start all conversations with my friends with “Hey Windows peasants!” If I had any friends. These two things have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.