The left’s main vulnerability is splitting and infighting. We are terrible at it. This is known.
To build revolutionary change, a revolutionary party is needed. It must do its work and carry on its work. In the military, they taught me that the number one priority is preserving your ability to fight. It’s ok if you have setbacks, lose equipment or men or tactical position or advantage; but it’s a catastrophe if you lose the capacity to fight.
Leftist infighting is what robs the movement of its ability to fight on. It kills the movements. (The Buddhists know this, and consider ‘creating a schism in the sangha’ the supreme sin. That’s a tangent, but the Buddhists have maintained an ideological movement for 26 centuries so they’re doing something right.)
We need to mock people who shame other leftists for impurity, who insult them for making mistakes. Liu Shaoqi said: “The attitude of some Party members towards these shortcomings and mistakes and towards those comrades who have incorrect ideas is one of “bitter hatred and gall”. They lightly sever all relations with comrades who have committed some mistake and whom they attempt to expel from the Party outright.”
It is ok for comrades to make mistakes in action, and to have mistaken beliefs. That’s the completely normal, inevitable part of having a movement. In fact, that’s all a movement is: listening to people’s beliefs, listening to their wrong beliefs, correcting them, unifying the thought of the party, unity makes strength. It is not ok to have incorrect ideas of “bitter hatred and gall”, and lightly sever all relations with comrades who have committed some mistake.
MAO MADE 30% MISTAKES, INCLUDING CAUSING THE BIGGEST FAMINE IN HUMAN HISTORY!!! If you can forgive that, you can forgive someone who made an off-colour tweet when they were a teenager.
People who try to cancel comrades for stuff they did/said in the distant past, or for non-core differences of opinion, are dong the imperialists work for them: dismantling the socialist movement.
PS: the aim is always to have a cohesive, united, strong movement with the correct views. Anything that serves the aim is good. Anything that wrecks the aim is bad.
THE BIGGEST FAMINE IN HUMAN HISTORY!!!
The PRC did embrace Lysenkoism after the USSR had abandoned it, possibly out of fervor or possibly out of contrarianism, and along with other factors this was one of the causes of the famines in the 60s. By that time the PRC was by far the most populous country in history, and a few % dying puts it in the highest of absolute numbers.
I love how leftists will agree on 99% of things, but become sworn enemies with other leftists over AI or the ideal brand of masks or outdoor cats or some shit. I love purity testing and infighting so much, and COINTELPRO has been great.
Knew a guy who wouldn’t volunteer at a soup kitchen because it was run by trots and he was an anarchist. Such a weird hangup. Like, okay dude they think society should be structured this way after the revolution and you think it should be that way? Okay, what does that have to do with making soup for the houseless?
This comrade gets it.
It’s about the economic base. If you believe in worker-control, you are a comrade.
I still think it’s bad that wrecker-jacketing is now no longer allowed. There’s so many obvious wreckers that just get away with shit because people don’t think about it anymore.
Can’t even post
anymore. Because of woke >:(when the imperialist cop tells me cancel culture sucks
People who upbear the reply to my comment but don’t upbear my comment are wreckers
But my reply comment is really clever.
You set yourself up on that one lol
Thanks for the set up!
In the military
Where’s my binder of struggle session arguments
A key motivator to splits is the desire for power, the need to be The One Person Calling All The Shots. People crave power, amd when there is a ladder of command, they wish to climb it.
Any organization that distributes its roles of power, and eliminates the concept of overall stratification, is going to make itself less prone to splits.
Having multiple ladders of power to climb, separate domains of expertise that are not ranked against each other, such as theory and analysis, recruitment, propaganda, facilitation and mediation, will allow people to fulfil their human nature* by pursuing distinction, while not stretching anyone too thin, nor putting all the party’s eggs in one basket, nor limiting how many people can wield a personal influence on the group as a whole.
*Yes I said those words. Pursuing distinction and social value, broadly, is one of the few things that can truly be said to be universal human nature rather than frequent human tendency.“the left” is whoever and whatever I say it is, so naturally anyone that disagrees with me is a wrecker and the only thing preventing “the left” from achieving electoral power through legal nonviolent political activity in the imperial core
alternatively
the overwhelming majority of the popularly understood “left” in the Anglophone world are liberal democrats who support capitalism and white supremacy, so everyone on this website giving anything less than full-throated support for Joe Biden and Kier Starmer is a splitter weakening “the movement”.
splitting and wrecking in the context of a specific revolutionary party is an organizational problem solved with democratic centralism. complaining about “splitting and wrecking” in the context of an abstract term used specifically to obscure irreconcilable political differences is just being upset that reality doesn’t rearrange itself to conform to terminology. it’s like saying “humanity’s main vulnerability is splitting and infighting; we should shame and bully humans who shame and bully other humans for being wrong”. Rhetorically abstracting away difference doesn’t make difference go away.
of course, “splitting from or undermining a group is sometimes good and sometimes bad depending on the specific context and conditions” is the kind of banal observation that doesn’t drive social media engagement.
The Chinese Famine of 1906 - 07 was probably larger from a mortality standpoint, though it didn’t last as long. The so-called Great Chinese Famine is only the greatest if you take maximalist anticommunist numbers, and recent scholarship is generally in the direction of it being significantly overestimated. Both that death toll and Mao’s “30%” (while he did make serious mistakes, let me be clear) are things that were basically encouraged to be exaggerated even in China itself because of the Dengist revolt and new orthodoxy needing to discourage support for Mao-era policy.
What I’m saying is that your anti-wrecking post contains wrecking.
My basic point is Mao made massive huge gigantic mistakes, but we judge him on whether he pushed socialism forward on balance.
My point is that his mistakes were historically overstated by the Dengists as a pretext for right-deviation, and that’s the portrayal we, as communists, have mostly inherited.
What I’m saying is that your anti-wrecking post contains wrecking.
In a nutshell what vampire’s asking for is some sort of hexbear party line, which if taken seriously would yet again lead to a big site-wide argument and probably bannings because its trying to take what isn’t a serious website in a serious direction.
my god, we’ve argued over stacking fucking rocks and are currently in a cold war over rule 8 of the dunk tank. I do not want to even remotely want to touch contentious theoretical topics - such as the sino-soviet difference on the concept of the national question and the right to self-determination. Also shut the fuck up we’re not even going to talk about it, that’s just something that would open pandoras box if the most arsonistic people got their hands on the concept - and have a gigantic shitflinging fest to end all gigantic shitflinging fests until in the name of wrecking wreckers for wrecking we stumble ourselves into a new gigantic shitflinging fest.
So you’re saying we should have this argument, the website shuts down, and we all go touch grass, right?
Struggle sessions struggle session
How about snuggle sessions
tldr, this is a shitposting website. Taking strong stances on minute specifics and labeling anyone who disagrees goes against the whole picture of hogs with shit on their testicles thing.
I refuse to partake in any struggle session
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Unsurprising fence sitting cowardice from a man who stood around doing nothing while a portal to the realm of Mehrunes Dagon was shitting out monsters right next to his city.
communist city guard EXPOSED as HYPOCRITE!
I’ll mark you down as anti-struggle sessions in the struggle sessions struggle session then
This is wrecker behavior!
LOOK AT THE TIME! 
We should try to stick together and not quibble over little stuff
You misrepresented Mao and are actually wrecking
It’s almost like that first sentence isn’t what I was responding to
Thank you for your input
Everyone I ideologically disagree with is a wrecker.
Someone plz wreck this bussy
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Hear me out hexbears, we have an infighting problem, therefore we should infight the infighters.
I agree we should forgive comrades more for making mistakes. I disagree that a philosophy of ‘bully the bullies’ is a sustainable approach to maintaining a community.
We should do weekly Survivor-like votes on who is a wrecker
“The party has spoken, it’s time for you to go”
but the mods can give out a secret immunity idol the night before the vote
You have to have the hardest own on a lib that week to guarantee immunity
Shaming wreckers is infighting, op.
I’m going to rob something from your house.
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I like your post, but there’s hella different sects of Buddhism.
They’re pretty chill with each other (compared to protestants and catholics)
