“The current obsession with nostalgia and remake culture is easy to understand when you realize that it’s a symptom of a culture that isn’t allowed to imagine a future.”

  • paultimate14@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Or… Maybe for most of human history we re-told the same stories over and over again for thousands of years until the relatively recent concept of “intellectual property” has forbidden us individuals from doing what comes naturally, forming this sort of weird resentment for when corporations do it?

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      This is a real Im14AndThisIsDeep meme. More people have access to platforms where they can share their creative works than at any other point in human history, if you aren’t seeing it then you’re not really trying to find it. That point would be fair, too; its hard to find original content (even more so with the rise of AI-driven SEO). It’s not the trend in hollywood, but hollywood doesn’t define culture NEARLY as much as they’d like to think they do…)

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        There is a baseline of quality that is hard for a plucky individual to match outside of mono-medium media.

        While it is possible for good video games to be produced by a single indivudal or very small team, it is a lot of work on their part and hard to do if worried about paying for food, rent, etc.

        Filmic media (is there a good noun that joins movies and fiction TV shows as a unified object?), a solid level of difficulty above that.

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          You’ve a winning argument, to be sure! Not sure where I quantified how much I think hollywood influences culture but okay.

          FWIW, obviously popular media both is influential and responds to culture. “Hollywood” really shouldn’t be treated as a singular entity if we’re trying for a semblance of legitimacy. This is really quickly going to fall into a discussion of the role of the audience and how that’s changed in the digital era (vs. when Aristotle first brought it up…), and neither of us care enough to suffer through thay. Suffice to say it’s not cut and dry, and beyond that I dont know any better than you do what specific impact they have (and neither do they).

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        I think that lately people are taking refuge in things that made them happy in the past because not being able to see a clear future in their lives. Returning again and again to the things that made them happy in their day. And companies are only taking advantage of that. I’m not saying new thing don’t exist, I’m saying people are not willing to search them because they only want to escape to the past.

        Idk, I see more people that they live is something like pokemon that actually they family, career or they own projects or dreams.

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    Or uh maybe old games are still good and it makes sense to provide an easy way for newer generations to play them? If a record label remasters a Beatles album do we get mad over that? Music doesn’t have an expiration date so why should games?

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      I don’t think it costs over 200 million and 5 years of labor to remaster a Beatles album, but I’d believe it if you told me that’s what they charge

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        • absolute population growing
        • share of population with feasible access to pokemon-compatible consoles growing
        • share of population who see video games as a legitimate pastime growing
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        Presumably because they are continually picking up new players from younger age groups while retaining many older players, but I don’t really have any interest in those games so I don’t know much about them. I’m not really seeing how this directly relates to my comment, either.

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        Scarlet and Violet may only run at 10FPS and there are plenty of other flaws, but it’s still a ton of fun. And those are sequels, not remakes. The gameplay is a dramatic shift from everything the mainline series has done before.

        Legends Arceus has performance issues too, but was was critically acclaimed.

        As for the remakes, they’re generally pretty good upgrades. Gen 1 has really aged poorly, but FRLG are fantastic. I never liked Diamond or Pearl, but BDSP were really solid and fixed almost everything they could without making fundamental changes to the game. I’m really hoping they re-make Gen 5 because those are my favorite and they are stuck on the DS- my adult hands can’t handle holding something that small for hours on end.

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    Or maybe in a post-modern world we use (mostly empty) signifiers to give ourselves meaning and show allegiance to a subculture.

    Its why we pepper our speech with allusions and cultural in-jokes - but where in the past they were tied to more concrete ideology, now they are simply signs that one has consumed the same media as someone. And the existing signifiers have more cultural clout than new ones, except to signify an interest in non-mainstream cultural products.
    For the self has become simply a vessel for consumption. There is nothing beyond the consumption of product.
    Especially as public allegiance to a non-neoliberal ideology is seen as uncivil. Unsurprisingly more peaceful Left-wing ideologies less civil and more incorrect that violent far Right ones, because the Left will always be more critical of consumption as the purpose of life.

    Despite being wrong, Fukuyama’s inflammatory title has polluted the mind of the Anglophone and European cultural zone.

    • CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org
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      damn, i see why you’re posting this from lemmynsfw, your comment is not safe for work, because now i don’t wanna do anything but roll up in a blanket and pose some existential questions to myself. And to think, the day has just began.

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    I feel like people are taking this commentary a little too literally. I don’t think it’s intended to suggest that all remakes are always bad and we should be ashamed of ourselves for enjoying them. Mankind has a habit of romanticising the past, and that’s led to something of a modern obsession with nostalgia. These are fair, and interesting, statements.

    That said, the choice of pairing the statement with an allusion to FF7 is probably not a great choice. The remake is fantastic, and isn’t at all symptomatic of the problem of quick cash-in, nostalgia driven remakes. Hell, the first game specifically tackles themes of pre-determination, which functions as a pretty on-the-nose metaphor for nostalgia. And fascinatingly the meta-analysis of this is critical of exactly the same thing: there are literally spirits of sorts which attack the player and manipulate events to ensure the original story remains untouched, and they become a prominent antagonist of the game as the player works to tell a story that is different from the one told in the original. Perhaps there’s something counterproductive about attaching this message to a remake that’s critical of soullessly telling the same stories we’ve already heard.

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      You seem to have liked the remake (and the game in general). I have finished the first one last year but for some reason, it didn’t click with me and the whole commentary you made wooshed over me (unless your whole text is satire). Are there some pointers you could give me to understand FF7 a bit better?

  • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
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    Say what you like but people have been screaming for a ff7 remake ever since ff10. I think thats too soon to count as nostalgia. We just wanted ff7 to look like ff10.

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    Nah. It’s just a management decision to ensure shareholder satisfaction by reusing proven bestsellers.

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      Still need market demand. People want these products.

      You can’t just chase a trend and throw out a game and expect it to print money. Ask Sony how that went for their run at a hero shooter.

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        But I think the point is, the OP meme is wrong to try painting this as some kind of society-wide psychological pathology, when it’s rather business people coming up with simple reliable formulas to make money. The space of possible products people could want is large, and this choice isn’t only about what people want, but what will get attention. People will readily pay attention to and discuss with others something they already have a connection to in a way they wouldn’t with some new thing, even if they would rather have something new.

  • Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works
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    I have no problem with remakes as long as they aren’t just trying to grab some cash from you without any work.

    I’ve really enjoyed the Final Fantasy VII remakes or the Planet of the Apes remakes. Yes they aren’t perfect, but it feels like some passion was put into these projects.

    As long as we aren’t just getting remakes, I have nothing against it. And sometimes remakes even have more originality than another generic game.

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      I’m torn on the FFVII remake, waited 20 years and I feel like I was handed a different game; it is a good game without a doubt, and the characters feel familiar. After eagerly jumping in and playing a while I found myself longing for a remake of the game I played for months before saving up enough for a memory card.

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    Retelling stories is such an ancient tradition we literally can trace certain myþs genealogically þrough ð millennia.

    Cloud being sad in an Action RPG format ðis time isn’t some deep revelation of ð deaþ of creativity because capitalism exists.

    And I hate capitalism and what it does to artistic expression!

    • Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com
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      Do you plan to do all digraphs, or just th?

      Will you split out the different vowel phonemes to their IPA?

      I’m just intrigued by the thought process behind your choice of typed characters.

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        Ya, like wtf? I got what they were saying based on context clues, but I swear I’ve been seeing more and more profiles that are trying to do a “thing.”

        Like this person with the typed characters, I’ve seen another user in comment threads who posts in the third person and refers to themselves as their fursona (scale-sona?), and of course the trolls.

        I guess I just don’t get it.

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    7 days ago

    Alternatively, it could be a way to kill what people look up to by fatigue through fatigue and disappointment through less than ideal re-imaginings.