• tae glas [siad/iad]@slrpnk.net
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    between measles and covid, there are a lot of people walking around who are immuno-compromised now & don’t even know it yet, beyond a vague idea that they don’t remember being sick so often before a few years ago.

    i really hope that the us swings away from fascism & eugenics and moves towards things like free healthcare asap, because it really doesn’t have to be like this.

    the huge cheers from all sides for the death of a healthcare ceo really shows that there are basic needs like healthcare & housing & UBI that have broad support, far beyond what culture war BS would have people believe, imo.

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      Sick for the second time in less than a month, and I got my flu and covid vaccines a couple months ago… these guys are ruining flu season for everyone, not just themselves. Admittedly, I could be better about wearing my mask regularly, but I try to whenever I’m in a really congested train or spot.

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        even occasionally masking is better than nothing, it’s breaking those chains of transmission! 💪

        unfortunately, the covid vaccine only really prevents the worst outcomes (hospitalisation & death) for about 4-6 months, it doesn’t prevent transmission or long covid.

        i’ve got my fingers crossed for a vaccine that does prevent transmission or long covid, but in the meantime, wearing a well-fitted mask really does work!

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          Yeah I think it’s my second time with covid, or at least symptomatically. Part of me feels like I may already have long covid, but the other part hopes I’m just imagining things…

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            i’m sorry to hear that ❤️‍🩹

            i hope you can get your hands on some paxlovid, and that you can rest as much as possible. if you think you’re resting enough, rest some more for good measure!

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              I’ve been sleeping through pretty much most of my free time, so perhaps not ideal.

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    While this is awful, it’s also cherry-picked data. There were 1,274 cases in 2019, and 667 cases in 2014, for example. Last year in 2024 there were only 285.

    I suspect 2020, which had the lowest measles infection rate in the US in all of recorded history, was so low only due to covid and people isolating much of the year.

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      1912 / 285 = ~6.7

      So yes it’s cherry picked data but totals are at 670+% of last year and the year isn’t finished yet

      RFK is going to end up causing a pandemic of something eventually and will go down in history for it

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        When you look at the variability in cases per year over the past 20 years, it’s clear you can’t tie this back to one person. He’s a total idiot who is going to make things worse, for sure, but the anti-vaccination movement on both the left and right predates his involvement in politics by many years

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            The modern anti-vax movement started on the left. The first notable measles outbreak in modern US history was in Marin, California which is full of crunchy hippies. You just didn’t hear about it as much because the left shuns their idiots instead of platforming them like the right does.

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            Dude. The New Age crowd started all this, with their “all natural” remedies. California was at the center of the anti-vaccine movement prior to the right losing their mind about vaccines during Covid

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      I’m Canadian even, and I’ve often spotted Joe Biden lurking around my home, hiding behind the bushes. He often carries a syringe full of what I can only assume is some deadly disease or another, and a large burlap sack with a question mark on it.

      I’ve noticed Joe Biden stealing jobs from my neighbours, which he places into the burlap sack, as well as money, babies, and other various items.

      I try to avoid him, and have thus far been successful, but I fear that one day he’ll either steal my job or infect me with some deadly disease.

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      My sister in law has a neighbor who flooded his home and immediately blamed the Democrats…I wish I was joking…

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    Because the U.S. is now the country where the surgeon general of the Louisiana Department of Health can cause a whooping cough outbreak in Louisiana, get caught by local journalists trying to cover up the deaths of infants that occured, and then instead of being fired in disgrace from his state level job, he’s promoted to number 2 at the CDC.

    You know how it’s SOP in any merit based field where you really fucked up at the state level, and they send you off to do the same at a national level.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/11/25/nx-s1-5620991/louisiana-surgeon-general-ralph-abraham-cdc-deputy

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      I have always related to this Isaac Asimov quote from 1980:

      There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

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      I know it’s easy to shit on the US, but the per capita measles infection rate is higher in many EU countries than it is in the US right now. France, for example, had 744 cases from Jan-Jul of this year, Spain had 339, and the Netherlands had 474.

      US: 5.6 cases per million
      France: 11.2 cases per million
      Spain: 6.9 cases per million
      Netherlands: 25.6 cases per million

      And this includes several more months of data for the US than the other countries

      Source: European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control

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        I do wonder if a lot more measles cases go unreported in rural America where these outbreaks are prevalent. There are no doctors in rural America.

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          There are no doctors in rural America.

          False. I doubt that anyone in America is more than 30 miles from a medical facility.

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            I…don’t even know where to begin when refuting your statement. Do you have an example location or lived experience in mind when you say this?

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              There are no doctors in rural America… I…don’t even know where to begin when refuting your statement.

              Why not start by proving that there are no doctors in rural America?

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        Very interesting. I had a look at Ireland. Here’s the historical graph

        Our lowest was 2015 where it was 0.4 cases per million or just two cases for the whole year. Generally it’s hovering around 10x to 15x that with most of the cases among adult men.

        I’ve never actually heard of anyone with measles here. The health agency does follow up rigourously if your kid misses the vaccine in school because they were out that day or whatever.

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          Narrowly missed that.

          Old enough to have gotten immunised to it from the old fashioned way. In that spike in the middle of the graph. And glad for it.

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    Idiots! Percent only goes up to one hundred, dummies. Big pharma isn’t even hiding it anymore…

    • antivaxxers right now, probably
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      I know you’re clowning, but don’t forget that the actual fucking President of the United States tried to claim that drug prices were down 700% just earlier this month and that gullible swamp of sycophants just gobbled it up.

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    The answer to the OP’s question is “this is what happens when stupid people elect a stupid president who appoints stupid health officials.”. The cure is simple, stupid people can’t vote or at least stupid people can’t be candidates.

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      The cure is simple, stupid people can’t vote or at least stupid people can’t be candidates.

      While I agree that in principle this would solve a lot of problems with our current setup, in practice the racists and idiots always end up getting control over who gets to vote and who doesn’t, and they end up only allowing people they approve of to vote. It’s been tried before and it failed spectacularly due to corruption, like most things.