• Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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      That’s exactly why he’s doing this.

      False claim one; Fentanyl is a WMD

      False claim two; Fentanyl is coming from Venezuela.

      Enjoy twenty more years of quagmire America.

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        You’re missing the other countries he’s used fentanyl to harass: Mexico, Canada, and China.

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          At least those countries are at least associated with fenntanyl and its supply chain. Venezuela is not as far as I’m aware. So it makes the whole thing much more preposterous.

          And just to clarify, we should not be starting any wars over the drug trade since that is much more effectively combatted by dealing with the causes here at home. As long as there is demand there will always be supply.

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            You’re assuming he’s talking about using this as an excuse to invade Venezuela. I’m assuming he’ll use it as an excuse to invade Canada and Mexico. He’s already made up bullshit about how it’s pouring over our border, and he’s already threatened our country with annexation.

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              If they invade it, the US won’t attempt to annex Mexico because giving Mexicans US citizenship will piss off Trump’s racist supporters.

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              There’s no way that happens. The oligarchs would lose money in the conflict. They gain money in a Venezuela conflict presumably. They have a lot of oil, like almost Saudi levels of oil, and there isnt enough trade with Venezuela for a war to upset the pocket books of the wealthy.

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                I’m sure the US could feel entitled to Canadian oil too, and then make up a justification afterwards.

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                  Yes, I agree in principle. However, the economics (well, monied interests) of it right now are not favorable. Too many people with money to make in US-Canadian trade would pull support for the politicians that push for it. That may change over time.

                  I think the idea was floated in the media by Mr Asshat because someone wanting the oil was interested in capturing it, but the push back from other donors was clear, and we dont hear them talking about it anymore other than to defend their “right” to float such ideas.

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                    Your points are correct. There was also congressional vote condemning tariffs on Canada.

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              I’m not saying Canada has a significant role. Venezuela just isn’t involved at all.

              “Based on seizure data and law enforcement investigation information, the consensus among U.S. authorities is that Mexico was the only significant source of illicit fentanyl and fentanyl analogues trafficked into the United States in 2024.”

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              Venezuela isn’t even mentioned. Neither is Canada I suppose. And that is U.S. gov data. So not like they can claim they didn’t know.

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        We just need to send Pete Hegseth to the UN with a little vial of enough fentanyl to kill a handful of horses.

        Bonus, make it real fentanyl and he probably won’t make it out of the bathroom alive.

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      I mean, it worked last time, and the only consequence was making billions of dollars in the process.

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        That and further tarnishing the states’ image on the world stage. But that’s a moot point now. Everyone can see they (the gov) are the baddies.

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          You are kidding yourself if you think the rest of the world thinks this isn’t because Americans are fucking ignorant moron fascists.

          You have a democratically elected government. This is what you chose.