Surface of the ocean or anywhere from the deepest trench up?
Surface, no brainer, I can swim for 30s. Below the surface, you’ll be like the surfaced blob fish before the end of the first month.
I tend to agree. I usually claim that I can’t swim, as what I do doesn’t really constitute swimming, but I can stay afloat and move in a deliberate direction.
A complicating factor: Swells and bad weather make it a lot harder. But on the flipside, no matter how badly it goes, if I’m teleported back in 30s I’d just fill my lungs beforehand. I can hold my breath for much longer than that, and even if I couldn’t, it would take more than 30s to die from oxygen deprivation - just make sure I have EMTs on standby for when I return.
The only real danger seems to be getting slammed against some rocks or getting bitten by something
But if it’s truly random, the second one becomes a lot less likely?
I think you gotta be reeeeally unlucky to be eaten by something within 30 seconds of arriving.
And the chances for dangerous shore positioning are really slim because the ocean is fucking huge. I’d say chances are that you won’t even be able to see land during all of those 30 second rounds. Source: I work with/on ships
Jellyfish stings.
Yeah the only one I’d really worry about is teleporting into s boat prop, rocks or reef, or maybe jellyfish. This stings hurt for a long time.
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I can hold my breath for 30 seconds. If I know it’s going to happen I’ll prepare with a full lung.
I assume I won’t be sent to something like the marianas trench where the pressure either coming or going would kill me, and since after the 30 seconds I’ll be dry even if I mess up and take in some seawater worst case it will be a terrible few minutes of gasping when I’m back.
Edit: I have no idea how “I won’t be sent to”, got turned into “intelligent” by autocorrect.
Marianas trench would crush your chest cavity and blowout your eardrums, so I dont think you’ll survive 30s there.
That was an autocorrect issue. I literally said “I won’t be sent to” and somehow my voice to text changed it to “intelligent”
I literally meant that assuming that the rules of the game didn’t mean you would be instantly killed, then you had an incredibly high chance of surviving.
I did struggle to read it :(
Agreed, if there is no teleport into insta-death, its definitely survivable.
You know what time it is so you could hyper oxygenate for a few minutes and be fine. 30 seconds isn’t that long and I don’t think it’s long enough to trigger the bends.
I’d do it at any survivable depths, especially since it said you’d have safety equipment, even though I’m not sure you’d need that either in 30 seconds.
I think bends only applies if you inhale compressed air at low depths and come up, because the 1L of air at -200m expands as you go up. Air you breath at sea level would compress down to nothing, which might mean that your chest cavity gets crushed, even at levels that are normally okay for divers. Rapid changes in either direction are what kills you.
30s per day of mild-to-moderate discomfort for 5 years, or working an average of 6 hours per day for virtually my entire life.
This was clearly written by someone with an intense and irrational fear of the sea. Nothing’s doing shit to you in 30 seconds. Most creatures wouldn’t even register your presence quickly enough to even think about doing anything.
Especially the surface of the open ocean. There’s little out there compared to near land. And even if you happened to pop near a shark feeding frenzy, for 30 seconds hold your breath, let yourself sink if that happens, and just don’t move at all.
As written it’s just five years 365 times. The odds are very good for survival. To make it more questionable, have the owed time be five years total in your life of 30 seconds accumulated. Still the same factors apply, 30 seconds isn’t a life risk. Add in the choice of extending any of these to longer than 30 seconds before the pop to use up the time. Now survival becomes questionable if you gamble too much or at the wrong time.
To make it more questionable, have the owed time be five years total in your life of 30 seconds accumulated.
Unless my math is wrong, which is super possible cuz I’m not particularly skilled with math, this isn’t possible. I just looked up seconds in a day and did a couple quick divisions (86,400 seconds in a day, divide by 30 for the number of swims, then divide by 365 for number of years it would take). So might be way off.
A single day in that arrangement appears to take almost 8 (7.89) years of daily 30-second swims. You’d never reach 5 years, it would just be a permanent condition of your life at that point. You might accumulate an entire fortnite before you die if you start very young (14 days would be 110.5 yrs).
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And most creatures are near shore or too deep to matter.
I mean, it would be extremely possible to be exceedingly uncomfortable to dangerous.
You could end up in the middle of a group of jellyfish, on a shoreline with heavy waves crashing you against rocks, in glacial Antarctic waters, on top of barnacle-covered rocks cutting your feet, in front of a ship barreling down upon you, in an oil spill… the entire premise is that it’s random. Many teleports would be safe, but any might not be.
There are so many ways you can die in less than 30s in the ocean. And that’s just on the surface. The offer is “into the ocean”.
I personally think the stress over not knowing and having to do it every day and trying to keep it secret too would be way worse for me than just working.
You probably get used to it over time though.
I’ve survived far worse.
Nods. Don’t forget you get 50 skip days. 50. I’d burn a couple of those if I was in the middle of something at end up with like 47 left.
I like swimming in the middle of nowhere. 30 seconds wouldn’t be enough for the absolute tranquility…I mean…if you weren’t in the middle of a storm, which would be also fine for 30 seconds.
100%. I’ll take my chances with the mostly empty ocean for a few years over dealing with capitalism trying to kill me for 40+ more years for the crime of being poor.
As long as it’s survivable, piece of cake. Very unlikely to be eaten, freeze to death, etc in 30 seconds and if it’s unbearable 50 skips. Too easy unless it’s at any depth. Then it’s far more likely to die. Way more volume than surface area.
You can hold your breath for 30s easy
Not at 100 meters deep, you can’t!
Oh
I think the person meant on the ocean surface
Why not?
There are depths of the sea where divers have to use special exotic mixes of gas because the pressure pushes gases into your bones and stuff. Divers going into and coming out of these areas have to do so very slowly. Look into saturation diving and barotrauma if this topic is interesting. But the gist is, if you’re getting teleported anywhere in the ocean, not just the surface, you’re screwed. You simply cannot go from normal air pressure, to depth pressure, back to normal air pressure that quickly and not have problems.
My intuition was a bit off, if seems. My point was that at a certain depth, the pressure will start wreaking havoc with your internals. But the free dive record seems to be 126 meters, so I obviously should have gone with a bigger number 😅
If you remember to take a deep breath. My ADHD ass would 100% forget by day 3.
DW about the ADHD. If you took a deep breath and suddenly transported to several hundred metres down, the pressure change would cause your lungs to implode. A similar fate to OceanGate except the debris would be your chest.
Eh you won’t even drown in 30s if you don’t.
Most of the human body is solid or roughly equal in density to water, however not all of it is, namely the lungs. Getting suddenly teleported to the Titanic would subject your body to crushing pressure. Somehow I think that might be unsurvivable.
I assumed the skips were before getting teleported not during. So if a shark is right under you, you can’t skip. If the skips can be decided during, then easy peasy.
Oh yeah. It’s funny the OP gave a lot of information but at the same time left out a lot of information.
People who set challenges like this just don’t understand money. $100,000,000 will buy you and everyone in your family a house, a car, food, drink, hobbies, holidays, almost anything you could conceivably want for the rest of your life. And that’s even if you blow it all and don’t even bother investing. It’s an insane amount of money. 30 seconds for five years is 15 hours. That’s a pay rate of $6,600,000 an hour. Just to be in the sea.
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Perhaps, but sometimes it tells us they’re an idiot that doesn’t understand math and considers minor inconvenience hardship.
it doesn’t say what part of the sea, just random… so you’ll almost certainly be crushed to death in the first week, considering that most of the ocean is too deep for you to survive 30 seconds.
if it was always floating on the top that would be a good deal… i can hold my breath for 30 seconds so even a storm probably wouldn’t kill me.
Also most of the ocean isn’t teeming with predatory animals.
Vast majority of sea life lives near coastlines - because that is precisely where current disruptions create easily accessible nutrients.
Out in the middle of the ocean there is really very little. Migratory animals moving between destinations mostly.
Also even 30 seconds gives you a fair bit of time even around predatory animals. Seems relatively safe bet for anyone without my luck. There’s a reason I never gamble.
Even with predatory animals may take them 20 seconds to figure out what’s happening…you got cash to burn.
Surface of the ocean? So, no chance of randomly arriving at submarine-crushing depths?
Hell yes. In fact I’d probably pay for the experience 🤣
What if a cruise ship happens to occupy the part of the ocean that I teleport to? Do we get Philadelphia experiment’d?
It depends on how “random” is decided. If any spot on the surface has an equal random chance to be chosen, you’d end up in the middle of nowhere pretty much all the time. Don’t underestimate how vast the oceans are and how little space is actually occupied.
Take it. No question. Trades every other insecurity for just one somewhat predictable event.
as long as i spawn on the surface then it’s fine.
if the locations are random, chances are it’ll be in the middle of the ocean/sea, far away from any dangerous cliffs.
and as I get the money upfront, if I die, my loved ones will get it, so it isn’t that bad
I think it’s implied that the money goes away if you don’t fulfill the 5 years “owed”. Either that or your dead body spends a lot of time at sea.
more importantly is what court enforces those contacts so you can consult a lawyer
If you’re a muslim then Suleiman or his modern equivalent (King Charles?) and Allah, if you’re not even abrahamic then genies and demons are local deities with a society of their own which still adhere to the laws laid down by heaven (in this case Caananite High God El).
lol. imagine going to king Charles for a dispute you have with your Ginnie
And then he summons the wind to carry you home on a carpet.
the royal flatulence
Random part sounds like the monkey’s paw part to me. Random spot on the surface, not bad. Random part including underwater? Sure, you can hold your breath, but there could be a large pressure differential. Your ears word also suffer. I don’t think that’s long enough to risk the bends etc but there’s a lot more depth than there is surface.
There are plenty of depths that would kill you in an instant.
30 seconds a day for only 5 years… That’s 912.5 minutes, or just over 15 hours. Less than a typical work week to tread water for a few seconds.
Can I bring a camera?
What about the sharks though? Sounds like there is a chance you might land somewhere you’re eaten.
Sharks would be wary of such large and unfamiliar prey appearing so suddenly. Unless you’re bleeding, they will probably only circle you for the 30 seconds, prefering you tired out instead of able to defend yourself.
What about landing in a group of man o’wars?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_man_o'_war#Venom
I’d say it’s statistically unlikely you’d run into them, given just how much water there is on earth. And even if you did, you’re going to have 30 seconds of a bad time. Sure, according to the article you could have 3 hours of pain. So a warm bubble bath treatment. Death is only found in extreme cases.
I’ve been in 2 car accidents coming from or going to work… and I can tell you I’m never going to earn anywhere close to $100,000,000. Work has demanded I drive through dangerous blizzard conditions many times because the business doesn’t stop even though it’s not safe to travel.
I’ll absolutely risk maybe seeing a man o’war. Because on paper, it appears to be less dangerous (since I’ll be teleported away from it 30 seconds after) than any 9-5 job.
So next problem then, what if you’re dropped into a rough storm. The sort that can make oil tankers rock. Fair chance you would drown in that.
It’s 30 seconds. Bad storm, I can hold my breath and hope for the best, for 30 seconds. An oil tanker is large so the waves and wind have more to push on, and it’s staying there longer than 30 seconds. That’s the part you keep missing, you’re there for only 30 seconds. There’s tons of ships that go threw storms just fine. Also you get 50 skip days, so if you know there’s a bad tropical storm somewhere and you don’t want to risk it, just skip it. But even if there’s a hurricane going over Florida, statistically you’re just going to end up in the Pacific ocean somewhere since that’s the largest body of water. The pacific is ~30% of the earths surface. It’s got more surface area than Mars.
I have understood the 30 seconds part fine. I am looking at it from the point of view that you’re transported instantly and so could be taken by surprise when it occurs, you only need to have a wave crash on you, take in a mouthful of water and you would be in real trouble if get spun out.
There is rough weather out at sea in some part of the world most weeks, given you don’t know where you could be put on the globe then you would have to know you’re going to be dropped into a location with a storm to know to use your skip day otherwise you would be chewing through them pretty quickly.
There’s less than 100 shark attacks a year, world wide. In any given year there’s 10’s of thousands of deaths by car accidents just in the US. So, I’d say it’s probably safer 30 seconds in some water with sharks, than 30 seconds on any given highway with people.
Wait, do you get paid immediately? Or do you get paid when your ocean tour concludes on the 1825th day?
Because it would be tedious as fuck to have to still work every day during that time while enduring daily ocean trauma (and potentially have an unrelated accident and subsequently invalidate all my effort up to that point).
Also, like some other people mentioned: is it a random part of the ocean in a survivable area? I imagine this would strictly mean the surface of the ocean wherever you end up. Certain depths would be instant death and I don’t know how the physics work with teleporting from deep ocean back to the surface, but I assume it’s the perfect recipe for spontaneously contracting the bends
Putting aside the pressure crushing bit for a moment, the bends wouldn’t really be a problem. Freedivers can go pretty deep for several minutes and ascend without issue, because they aren’t breathing in and out and doing all the gas exchange at depth that eventually pushes more nitrogen into your blood.
1825
minus up to 50 skip days. could be as few as 1775 days.
fewer if doing multiple a day… it didn’t strictly exclude that possibility, especially since it said you get to choose the time of day… could try cheesing it, getting it done sooner…
survivable
Given the part about the suit if freezing, it seems so.
The ocean is BIG. Chance of something big enough to be interested in you discovering you and deciding to eat you in 30 seconds is minuscule.
Sharks aren’t mindless chomping machines.
Cthulhu might be problematic, though.
Sounds like a good alarm clock.
Can I choose a different time on weekends and holidays?
Does it take daylight savings into account?
It says I come back dry… does it clean me too? Can it replace a shower, is what I’m getting at…?
Oh I like the way you think, that’s brilliant!
Sounds kind of easy with the thermal suit involved
Even without it, you can survive 30 seconds in the biting cold easily.
Honestly seeing a new part of the sea every day could be fun.
Hmm, flat and wet today. Cool.
Wow, flat and wet again.
Flat and wet.
A little choppy and also wet.
Flat and wet again.
Is that land in the distance!?! Nope, floating bird.
Flat. Wet.
I could handle that for 30 seconds a day.
I finally participated in weekly (more or less) winter bathing last year, and even if I stopped, it still was an interesting experience. And I wasn’t even paid.
The coldest was 2.5C water and -8C air, and it was painful. Anything over 6 is more or less manageable. And you get a “ohhh, the water is goood” perk for the summer. I mean, for days when water is not actually good, but you’ve had worse so you enjoy it:)
Random part of the ocean: any day, you can arrive in the middle of a storm, get crushed by a massive wave on nearby rocks (or ice, or floating debris) and die in an instant.
You can arrive in a patch of human garbage and be stabbed by metal or wood, or swallow petrol or oil, and return wounded to death.
You can land in the spot where orcas are fighting, or a white whale is just splashing and be killed there and then.
You can land in front of a cruiseship as it arrives at full speed and be knocked dead on the spot.
I don’t know why people aren’t more terrified of the ocean.
You should be terrified of the ocean.
The ocean is fucking huge. With a truly random location there’s a beyond minuscule chance that you’ll be transported near any rocks or animals that even register your presence within 30 seconds. This one is a no brainer.
So in
5years, you will be throwing1825times.
Say, probability of one of those problematic events isP(E), whereEis the event.
Probability ofEhappeningn(Natural) number of times would be either0orP(E), withP(E)forn = 1and0forn > 1, because you don’t get more than1life to make it happen more than once.Probability of it happening at least once in the whole
5years of time, isP(E) × 1825.
So, what is the value you set toP(E)to convince yourself that probability is the correct thing to go by?I checked wiki for a couple numbers, and it looks like Earth’s ocean surface area is 361 million km^2, and the shoreline is 356,000 km. Even assuming every bit of the shoreline is made of sharp deadly rocks, there’s an extremely low probability you’ll end up near the shore at all, even with almost 1900 chances at it.
Going by masquenox’s comment, you might want to consider the whole volume of the oceans and the instant depressurisation that would occur if you were to survive the pressurisation.
Yeah the volume is one thing but I assumed we were talking about the surface. If you could end up miles underwater it wouldn’t be worth it
It’s not
P(E) x 1825that makes no sense because the probabilities are independent. It’s1 - (1 - P(E))^1825– your maths would imply that a 1/1000 chance had a 100% probability of happening after 1000 attempts, which is not how independent probabilities work.Anyway I’d probably go for it if it were, like, 1/100,000, giving a probability of the bad thing happening once over 5 years at just under 2%
I just remembered I hadn’t tried to write anything in J for like a year so I had a go at seeing how far the approximation was from the real values and got:
(-.@^&1825@-. % *&1825)@(0.1&^)"0 i. 10 0.000547945 0.00547945 0.0547945 0.459687 0.914098 0.990935 0.999089 0.999909 0.999991 0.999999So it looks like the ratio probably converges as you increase n (these results are for 1, 1/10, 1/100 etc) but that
x 1825is always higher and starts off wildly off. But these numbers are probably mad squiffy because floating point yadda yadda.
So, either I get micro-vacations and rich, or I die? Where’s the downside?
