• scttgard@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    That has to be one of the more punchable faces I have seen. And I do not advocate violence. But he might be n exception.

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    Good, these are the types of guys that go “It’s just a prank bro” or “It’s a social experiment” except it isn’t. It’s just you being an inconsiderate jerk.

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      yeah, the kind that sets you on fire, shoots your wife and sells your children to Epstein, then goes “it’s just a prank bro”.

      There’s tons of light-hearted, harmless pranks out there. A good laugh where everyone goes away a little bit happier.

      This guy and his ilk on the other hand intentionally antagonise people to the point where they feel the need to defend themselves. Just because someone is out and about in public doesn’t mean they’re a free target for you to be shitty with them. Everyone has - or at least should have - the right to be unbothered in public by leeches like him.

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          100% - but I meant the self defense part when they haven’t actually touched you, just gotten to the point where their actions can constitute harassment.

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                The point I’m trying to make is that people should be free of prosecution if they are being aggressively harassed, both physical and verbal. It used to be, you ran your mouth, you would get a punch in the face to knock some sense back into you. Immediate consequences for stupidity.

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                  People who say “violence is never the answer” probably never got bullied or harassed themselves.

                  They’ll moralize about “just tell on them!” But that doesn’t do anything, and the harassment only gets worse after that.

                  Throughout my life, I’ve consistently gotten in more trouble for sticking up for myself than I’ve ever seen my bullies or harassers get in. It’s like the system wants us all to be pushovers and peons, not deserving even the ground beneath our feet. Or maybe I’ve just been tagged from birth as a “peasant” and therefore never been allowed to have a spine.

                  But honestly, you can see how much damage this is doing to society. “Violence is never the answer” means we have to tolerate intolerance. It gives free license to bigotry, and forces us to appease.

                  Violence was certainly the answer back in WWII. Nobody was gonna stop the Nazis simply by asking nicely.

                  But for decades now, people haven’t even been allowed to fight their bullies. And it shows…

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                  Oh I agree. I’m just pointing out that currently, courts require physicality to happen for an overwhelming majority of physical self defense responses.

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        like, fuck people who watch these absolute shitheads, but I don’t really buy that. people look at car crashes. i don’t think reckless drivers are “enabled”.

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          I don’t think a car crash is an apt comparison in this case, that is usually an accident and not something easy to ignore and pretend it didn’t happen - it affects everyone who wants to use the road where the crash happened. Nobody is clapping and cheering.

          What this asshole does isn’t an accident, it’s intentional. People follow him expecting bullshit and praising him for that. He’s akin to people who like to drive recklessly and post and brag about it online.

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        I think the viewers of streams like his should get a swift kick in the nuts or vag and maybe kept from reproducing because nobody consuming his content is a good person.

        Like, you’re right the streamers getting money by acting like assholes are only making money because of the audience. Said audience members are just as shitty as people.

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        I interpret this as a nastier form of community service. He didn’t get the three year sentence, he got six months. He also partly brought this upon himself, as per the article when he was bragging online about how he wouldn’t serve a day in jail. They decided to make an example of him. Also, any South Koreans that I have met are unfailingly nice people, but in their core, they are a hard and pragmatic people.

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          You’re defending slavery here. It’s the same problem with the US system.

          I’m not saying prison time isn’t warranted, just that slavery is not an appropriate form of punishment or rehabilitation.

          That’s the tricky part about having morals is they extend to people I don’t like like this guy.

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            I’m not defending slavery at all. I’m just attempting to explain why it is. Attempting moral relativism, because South Korea has a unique history and people which led to the way they interpret their punishment system.

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              You must understand the American South had a unique history and people which led to the way they…

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                My wife and stepdaughter are from Africa, I understand the racism. Have you ever considered that I was mocking extreme moral relativism? My question is, why are you passing judgement on the South Koreans?

                For the record, I think that the Scandinavian model of rehabilitation is the best way to work with most prisoners.

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                  I pass judgments on all governments when it comes to violating human dignity.

                  You try to make this a race thing is fucking weird. I’m judging a government’s actions not the entire population of South Korea.

                  And when it comes to human rights I take an absolutionist stance on morality. Slavery is never okay

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    "I know for a fact that I’m not going to go to jail. Not one day in jail. I’m going to laugh my ass off when all these motherf***ers are saying I’m going for 30 years, 20 years, five years, 10 years. I’m not even going to do one day, bro. They’ll give me a fine and say, ‘Don’t come back to Korea.’ You’re the one that’s going to look so dumb when I don’t get any jailtime or anything. Bro, I’m going to laugh like a f**king villain.

    amazing.

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        at the end of the day, his only crime is being annoying. He didn’t kill someone, didn’t steal anything, etc. So 6months seems fair.

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          And it’s six months of hard labor without access to a smartphone. He’ll either lose his mind or actually reconsider his life choices.

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            Plus he had to register as a sex offender in Korea, and thus has to register in America on his return or face 10y, so who’s got money on him failing to register?

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        If we’re lucky, he will annoy the wrong person and get the shit kicked out of him. Maybe he’ll learn.

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      If they do a prisoner exchange with North Korea anytime in the near future, they should send this guy to them. Just because. Maybe it will teach the arrogant US citizens to behave better in other countries.

      Note, I’m not saying that about the US citizens that are considerate human beings.

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    Apparently he kissed a statue of a woman that was built as a memorial to all the south Korean women that were raped by the Japanese during their colonial rule. In case anyone was wondering what he did to end up in jail.

    I’m willing to bet he knew exactly what that statue was a memorial for.

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    This guy is like a reverse hostage. Countries will threaten to release him if they don’t get what they want.

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    Now that he’s convicted, an interesting question might be “is there enough evidence to convict him in other countries who have extradition treaties with South Korea?”…

    I have limited sympathy for people who make their living by bothering people.

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      Probably, but that’s generally not done. He’s been convicted and after he serves his sentence he’ll be deported, which means he probably won’t be given a visa to enter any other country.

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      Japan probably won’t do anything more. I believe he has an entry ban for some time here (probably 5 years from whenever he was gone), but I don’t recall the exact details.

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        He is now on the sex offender registry, which I think blocks entry automatically.

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    Norwegian philosopher Arne Ness said it best:

    “There is no freedom without responsibility - in fact, the two are intrinsically the same.”

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    This made my day. He thought he was untouchable and now is in a forced labor camp for 6 months.

    Dude is just one of the worst humans.

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    Until today, I knew nothing about Mr Somali, but a cursory glance at his medium of choice shows him to be…not well liked

    Ray William Johnson:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjhpcyBdt88&t=0

    Legal mindset:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbto0N6PkIs&t=0

    “What are you, like a professional asshole?”

    “Yes”

    Mr Somali now joins the ranks of Charlie Zelenoff in the FAFO game.

    Perhaps the only shame is that he didn’t try his little stunt in Singapore, where public caning is still a thing.

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      Now I used to like RWJ, but it did become a bit cringe and corporate over the years, so I’m genuinely surprise how watchable that video was.

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    I’ll be glad when everyone forgets about this guy in two days and I don’t have to see his dumb face in my feed anymore.

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    The great tragedy is that S Korea commuted his 3 year potential sentence to just 6 months.

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        For a nonviolent crime?

        Punitive justice isn’t justice. In the case a short sentence is appropriate. He’s punished for 6 months and then barred from the country. How would the cost of 3 years of imprisonment benefit South Korean citizens? Seems like an unnecessary cost.

        My opinion would change if it was a violent crime.

        And don’t misinterpret me. I don’t like the guy at all, I just dislike governments and unnecessarily long prison sentences more

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          I would generally agree with you. Unfortunately this is the system we have and I will admit, there is a personal pleasure in seeing consequences for this shit. In general I am also for prison abolition and restorative justice. I’m not as principled on this as I would like, I guess. That’s definitely a point for me to keep working on. I do however wonder what would make someone like this… rehabilitate.

          Having said that, I will say the sharing of sexual deepfakes is definitely violent in an already extremely misogynist world where violence against women is often based on ideas of ownership of women’s bodies and violence. There is a specific sort of violence to it that I can not fully comprehend as a masc person, but that is definitely violent in nature. Not just violating, but explicitly violent. This act only further contributes to the underlying violence of misogyny, I think is what I’m getting at.

          Thanks btw for your response, I think you make a good point.

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            Oh wait a minute I only heard about the statue bit, the deepfakes does change my mind a bit. It’s certainly not victimless in that case. I’m still not comfortable with 3 years, but more than 6 months seems more appropriate in thay case

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              Yeah he got off really light apparently. The prosecution wanted 3 years so 6 months seems way off. Makes an appeal seem almost inevitable.

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    Used to frequent a streaming site for telestreaming robots. I remember the owner getting excited when Ice Poseidon contacted them because of his popularity, thinking it would help traffic. Community warned her it was playing with napalm. She invited him anyway. It only attracted a shitload of griefers, incels and filth that never fully went away after he quickly became bored and left. Site was never the same.

    This piece of shit was somehow even more annoying so you love to see it.