the idea that most people are voluntarily internally migrating in the US to pursue preferable public institutions is like beliving that most people are evicted because they prefer to be unhoused.
a whole shitpot full of people are leaving an apocalyptic community and chasing the promise of a job. the capitalists are luring them–often under false pretenses–into the places where the workers have the least political power.
there are people moving to friendlier and more tolerant spaces, to be sure, but their personal risk is mitigated by their class-position and income level.
In a sense, you could say the problem with those coastal blue areas is that they succeeded themselves to death.
Like this could come for some spots in red areas (like Florida) next and instead of seeing this as a warning, they just smugly make gotchas.
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Remote work also changed the math quite a bit… I know plenty of family friends who moved from california to the texas ex-burbs because they can stretch their money further
Libs are completely detached from reality. Even if we for a moment, assume a left-wing candidate say Mamdani for examples sake…
becomes president, he is (sadly) not gonna enact Stalinist purges. Instead, he’ll implement some vaguely socdem policies and that’s it.
the current establishment/voter base cant even produce/tolerate an FDR…
I´m assuming the best possible outcome atm under electorialism…which ofc wouldnt be socialism. But some very basic socdem policies. I dont think a better outcome is possible under the current circumstances. I will totally admit im not thaaat in touch with US politics. So I will be open to challenge on this point.
there is no real pressure from the left on any of the western political establishments, so they’re all freely wallowing in chauvinist austerity with <country> characteristics pretty much.
they’re clearly more attached to their white supremacy than to their welfare.
I wish it weren’t the reality that conditions must get even worse for revolution to happen. I live a relatively comfortable life so long as my parents remain alive. Once they pass, though, straight down the poverty hole. But too many people still see themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires and not as systematically barred from wealth. Maybe conditions don’t need to worsen if people were informed, but even where people are willing to teach, so many are unwilling to listen. I know there’s that essay about how brainwashing isn’t really a thing like we think of it, but I think it still has some truth to it.
possible under the current circumstances.
The conditions are actually great but the culture is absolutely rancid. If you look at the the circumstances leading up to the Russian Revolution, socialists were concerned the proletarian base was far too small in numbers and the country far too agrarian and detached from capital to bring about a revolution. What we have mown is a population that is overwhelmingly made of real proletariat as far as their relation to capital is concerned but and I’m sorry since this is such a touchy subect, white supremacy is so pervasive and takes such extreme precedence in American (including leftist culture) here that any proletarian revolution will be severly weakened. Yes, it is racism that is the biggest hurdle overcome. Class consciousness is actualky fairly prevalent lest it cross racial barriers and then suddenly people want to establish divisions.
Bernie is a dirty word, and deservedly so, but the democratic establishment went nuclear against him in 2020
And he’s only mildly left of center
Any FDR analogue would get shot before they got that far
I wonder if that could happen with a politician who has FDR’s charisma. Bernie kind of didn’t have it. He was liked for his policies but wasn’t exactly the “I could hang out with him and have a good time” kind of guy that Americans seem drawn to when voting
They’ll put non-whites into camps, though.
“I’ve lived with this malignant brain tumor for years, therefore having the tumor isn’t an issue.”
I think it’s more a case of “I’ve been a malignant brain tumor in your head for years and now you want to kick me out of my home? So much for the tolerant left.”
This is simply those who are benefiting from the status quo not giving a shit about continuing it so long as they remain unaffected. Which hey maybe they’ll be fine and it never will. But that’s not most people, and so when the end comes for these libs and they cry about how we’re as bad as the right, we can only tell them to line up and eat a bullet, they had plenty of chances to turn away from the path they took.
“So much for the tolerant left” becomes the epitaph of a generation of fascist shitheads
Scratch a liberal…
social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism
Anyone presenting “murderous mob rule” as a bad thing is counting on you assuming you’re a victim of the mob and not part of it. You must imagine yourself a part of the murderous mob.
I dunno. An actual mob could be bad. If they were disciplined and informed, then it might work, but then you’ve essentially built more of a militia than a mob. Maybe I’m just quibbling over wording, though…
Hmm, sounds like we need some kind of group to help lead the mob, steer them in the right direction by moving ahead of them, like some sort of vanguard or something…
Oh I know! The invisible hand of the market will guide them to consume hard enough that we defeat the enemy!
/j
Yeah, mob justice has many usually awful examples in vigilance committees and whatnot. Imagine having a mob of the folks above coming after you.
These people always talk about how the left are scary because their “psychotic policies” will ruin everything somehow, but they can never articulate why beyond vaguely gesturing at “muh free market” or saying that “socialism is bad because (describes something that happens under capitalism).”
Also if these policies have never been implemented, how do they know they’ll never work?
why are these people so afraid of “murderous mob rule” when we already have a murderous mob with their own stormtroopers? the wicked flee when no man pursueth.
Yeah, but those brownshirts will leave them alone, so they don’t care. But a hypothetical angry mob could hypothetically attack them, so it’s much worse than actual angry mobs of people in real life, since they don’t hurt these people.
Ok but tankie, did you consider great purges 1984 animal farm?
You gotta love liberal logic… Apparently, people are moving to MAGA states to escape “psychotic” progressive policies that haven’t yet been implemented.
Just subtract 1 from the number in their name and it’s accurate
first time? i see those words around unironically.
Reminds me of This
Bernie Sanders going home to their statue to Hitler; Donald Trump going HHome to HHiSS SStatue of Mao
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
You only fail to recognize this because their psychotic policies haven’t yet been implemented.
Sorry for a reddity “ackshually this is a logical fallacy” but this is exemplary of begging the question: posing a question, then “proving” it to be true by tacit assumption that it is true. They set out to prove that socialists are worse than fascists. Because, ostensibly, socialism has never been tried, they then assume that it would be worse, lacking any evidence and relying on supposed common sense. The argument reduces to: socialism is worse than fascism because it is assumed to be so.
