AvE - got introduced him just before he decided to start talking positively about MAGA and the similar Canadian trucker protests. Plenty of other people out there doing teardown my videos, so I bailed.
Rose Anvil - loved his work boot teardowns, but he gradually started promoting his own collabs and seemed to favor certain brands even if they were doing things he called shoddy in other brands. Then he started doing a lot with Jim Green boots in South Africa and making a lot of comments that felt pro-Rhodesia to me and started giving me the ick for watching.
Forgotten Weapons I still watch if there is something of particular interest to me. I used to watch every one, but as the country got more MAGA invested and gun culture felt like it was becoming more toxic than usual, I wasn’t happy with Ian staying neutral. If he’s worried about losing viewers and connections with gun manufacturers, I get that, but I also don’t have to like it or support it.
I agree with you on Forgotten Weapons. Also got kinda skeezed out with all the giveaways that required to to buy ridiculous and overpriced crap for an entry into the raffle.
You might like InRangeTV then, it hits all the stuff. Pro LGBT, Anti Maga, Anti Racist, while producing excellent videos about guns, history, etc.
I was going to mention Karl at InRange as a good example. As a lefty gun owner, it is so rare to find someone in the gun community willing to speak up if they want to have any kind of standing.
C&arsenal I still kinda like, because they seem to steer more clear of any politics in a way better than Ian does, though I don’t think I’ve ever watched their Q&A videos, kinda out of fear at being disappointed after getting meh on Ian. Their videos, while great, are just so dang long! I can’t watch 90+ minutes of details on every iteration of rare guns, so I stick to the ones I’m more familiar with.
Oh I dont recall fully, so don’t take what I’m about to say as facts…
But I believe the “official” reason was that InRange was taking up time Ian needed to travel to do episodes for Forgotten Weapons.
and I believe the unofficial reason was something to do with the company that originally made and sold the What Would Stoner Do AR for them, And how they ended up outing themselves as assholes for using like…right wing dog whistles and antiLGBT things for discount codes, Which Karl has zero issue calling out on, but Ian was more interested in avoiding making a public stance on any of it and risking being political, and causing any harm to his relationship with that company. So Ian parted ways and, if I recall, has had zero interaction with InRange since.
Again, I reiterate, its been a while since i last brushed up on it, and I may have details wrong, so do not take this as hard and true fact.
ultimately, I don’t think we’ll ever know the true depth of details until Karl or Ian come out and lay them out in a video. Which will probably never happen
I do somewhat recall some things with Brownells and the ARs, but at that point I was getting tired of the behind the scenes infighting.
I just assumed they decided to split with each other professionally before they started to dislike each other personally.
Ian not wanting to bite the hand that feeds is understandable to a degree, but him walking that path only helps him and the toxic parts of the fanbase.
Thanks for recommend InRangeTV. I was kind of lost about which historical weapon channel to follow, after Forgotten Weapons getting increasingly uncomfortable to watch.
Yeah, I got no time for anyone who finds any entertainment in anything trump related. My extended family is about 80% Trump lovers, and since I can’t get rid of them, I can sure as heck choose to ignore anyone I’m not related to.
I suspected AvE was right wing because he always made wife bad jokes. Gotta tip toe around muh wife ey guys hue he hue. But I watched since his teardowns of tools were informative.
Then he bought a CNC machine that probably still filters him to this day, and when I saw the first anti vaccine video during covid with a comment section full of supporters, that was it.
I never know how much of these guys is an act/character for the channel and how much is really them. I took AvE as hamming it up at first, with the jokes and language, exaggerating the blue collar “traditional” humor, but joking or not, venture into science denial or supporting fascist types, I’m out.
I would have been fine if he hadn’t used the platform for that shit. No question where his heart lies. but he has no business growing the nazi base with that shit,
Finding out AvE was really dumb as fuck was a gut punch. I really enjoyed his content and it sucked to walk away. But I dropped it cold turkey when the first video supporting the trucker convoy came out.
AvE - got introduced him just before he decided to start talking positively about MAGA and the similar Canadian trucker protests. Plenty of other people out there doing teardown my videos, so I bailed.
Rose Anvil - loved his work boot teardowns, but he gradually started promoting his own collabs and seemed to favor certain brands even if they were doing things he called shoddy in other brands. Then he started doing a lot with Jim Green boots in South Africa and making a lot of comments that felt pro-Rhodesia to me and started giving me the ick for watching.
Forgotten Weapons I still watch if there is something of particular interest to me. I used to watch every one, but as the country got more MAGA invested and gun culture felt like it was becoming more toxic than usual, I wasn’t happy with Ian staying neutral. If he’s worried about losing viewers and connections with gun manufacturers, I get that, but I also don’t have to like it or support it.
I agree with you on Forgotten Weapons. Also got kinda skeezed out with all the giveaways that required to to buy ridiculous and overpriced crap for an entry into the raffle.
You might like InRangeTV then, it hits all the stuff. Pro LGBT, Anti Maga, Anti Racist, while producing excellent videos about guns, history, etc.
I sound like i paid shill dont I :\
I was going to mention Karl at InRange as a good example. As a lefty gun owner, it is so rare to find someone in the gun community willing to speak up if they want to have any kind of standing.
C&arsenal I still kinda like, because they seem to steer more clear of any politics in a way better than Ian does, though I don’t think I’ve ever watched their Q&A videos, kinda out of fear at being disappointed after getting meh on Ian. Their videos, while great, are just so dang long! I can’t watch 90+ minutes of details on every iteration of rare guns, so I stick to the ones I’m more familiar with.
Inrange and and Ian from forgotten weapons had like a big falling out over inrangeTVs politics being too critical of rightwing bs if I’m not mistaken
Oh I dont recall fully, so don’t take what I’m about to say as facts…
But I believe the “official” reason was that InRange was taking up time Ian needed to travel to do episodes for Forgotten Weapons.
and I believe the unofficial reason was something to do with the company that originally made and sold the What Would Stoner Do AR for them, And how they ended up outing themselves as assholes for using like…right wing dog whistles and antiLGBT things for discount codes, Which Karl has zero issue calling out on, but Ian was more interested in avoiding making a public stance on any of it and risking being political, and causing any harm to his relationship with that company. So Ian parted ways and, if I recall, has had zero interaction with InRange since.
Again, I reiterate, its been a while since i last brushed up on it, and I may have details wrong, so do not take this as hard and true fact.
I’ll take the added context with the appropriate grain of salt, thanks for the additional info!
ultimately, I don’t think we’ll ever know the true depth of details until Karl or Ian come out and lay them out in a video. Which will probably never happen
I do somewhat recall some things with Brownells and the ARs, but at that point I was getting tired of the behind the scenes infighting.
I just assumed they decided to split with each other professionally before they started to dislike each other personally.
Ian not wanting to bite the hand that feeds is understandable to a degree, but him walking that path only helps him and the toxic parts of the fanbase.
Thanks for recommend InRangeTV. I was kind of lost about which historical weapon channel to follow, after Forgotten Weapons getting increasingly uncomfortable to watch.
I miss AvE sometimes. Last video I watched he something about at least trump isn’t boring, or something to that effect. No thank you.
Yeah, I got no time for anyone who finds any entertainment in anything trump related. My extended family is about 80% Trump lovers, and since I can’t get rid of them, I can sure as heck choose to ignore anyone I’m not related to.
I suspected AvE was right wing because he always made wife bad jokes. Gotta tip toe around muh wife ey guys hue he hue. But I watched since his teardowns of tools were informative.
Then he bought a CNC machine that probably still filters him to this day, and when I saw the first anti vaccine video during covid with a comment section full of supporters, that was it.
I never know how much of these guys is an act/character for the channel and how much is really them. I took AvE as hamming it up at first, with the jokes and language, exaggerating the blue collar “traditional” humor, but joking or not, venture into science denial or supporting fascist types, I’m out.
I would have been fine if he hadn’t used the platform for that shit. No question where his heart lies. but he has no business growing the nazi base with that shit,
Finding out AvE was really dumb as fuck was a gut punch. I really enjoyed his content and it sucked to walk away. But I dropped it cold turkey when the first video supporting the trucker convoy came out.