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This game is gonna be terrible. It’s made by Bethesda ffs
Brought to you by the guys responsible for Fallout 4, Fallout 76, and Starfield.
Yeah, Bethesda’s dead. There are like 3 people left from when they actually made good games and those are the ones least responsible for those games being good
Also all the recent interviews with former devs have revealed that they are by and large fucking delusional
Writers as well. One of the longtime writers for the TES series (Daggerfall till Oblivion) was laid off and was given what was essentially a cameo for Skyrim (I believe he was credited for a couple of the in game books to do with past events in the lore). He appears to be completely uninvolved in 6.
Kirkbride?
Kirkbride wasn’t on Daggerfall so either he’s misremembering or he means Ted Peterson who wrote for all of them besides Skyrim
I may have fused both of them together, it’s been a while.
Michael Kirkbride got fired late in Morrowind’s development for drinking on the job. He was commissioned to write some stuff in Oblivion and again in Skyrim, in addition to reusing his older works.
I fused him and Peterson together in my mind
If they ditched Todd and Emil completely and brought over the writers from ESO they’d have a chance, provided they poached some competent quest designers from another studio. Todd’s apparently been sidelined post-Starfield but AFAIK Emil is still their lead writer and he’s been as responsible as Todd for the sorry state of Bethesda’s writing and worldbuilding.
If not more so. Emil writes marvel brained slop like none other.
And he’s gotten worse at it over the years. Like he ostensibly wrote the Tenpenny Tower storyline/quest for FO3, and then rehashed it in Starfield except worse because the literal only options there were siding with a CEO who wanted you to either commit genocide, convince an entire people to become his slaves, or give his mass murdering oligarch buddy a huge commission to let the generation ship leave without murdering or enslaving them. Whereas with Tenpenny Tower you could just kill Tenpenny on the spot, all the corporate freaks on that planet are invincible and the quest literally cannot even be failed, it can only resolve by you doing what they want.
Like FO3 was bad and railroady in bad ways (with its forced loss in a cutscene and nonsensical original ending), but Starfield is even worse in all of those ways and I can’t help but see it as Emil getting increasing creative control and driving away everyone with actual talent.
It was actually shocking how bad the writing in starfield is.
And on absolutely every level too. The worldbuilding is this weird unseasoned-mashed-potato facsimile of two Heinlein novels (the really fascist one and the cowboy incest one), the narrative is just aimless meaningless slop that goes nowhere and says and does nothing, the quest design is half-assed brainwormed dogshit to the point that it’s absolute peak is when it just does the thing Titanfall 2 and Dishonored 2 did with a split time place and it does it meaningfully worse than either of those did it, and the character writing is just dreary and abysmal nonsense.
Like mechanically the game was fine, but they just failed completely and utterly at every stage of writing its world and content.
get this woman a true
Put some respect on the name of Nate the Rake
also MS fired a large chunk of the ESO dev team while I think they left Bethesda mostly untouched
It’s like they want to make bad games
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two of the guild quests will be good
That sounds pretty normal for a Elder Scrolls game.
Hell, it’d be an improvement over Skyrim that had one.
I have my doubts Bethesda could write a good story if it came fully formed outta their doo doo ass. What, are they gonna make me find my father again?
I have my doubts Bethesda could even write a mediocre story like in Skyrim or fallout 3\4 now lol
If they stop letting that talentless hack Emil Pagliarulo write it they have a chance
Hes just a symptom of the lack of quality in Bethesda, its not like he single handed wrote all of fallout 4 and starfield
He wrote the main quest lines for both so actually he kinda did
Trueeee
Maybe heresy but I dont really care that much about the story and its not like Skyrim was some amazing feat. Coming from someone who liked Skyrim
Similar with Fallout 4 really. I think both of those games are on a level that is totally doable.
He did say Skyrim’s story was “mediocre,” and honestly I think that’s being generous as far as the main quest goes.
It kind of sucks for Skyrim because the story is also extremely setpiece oriented, but setpieces need to either be very mechanically good (so nearly none in Skyrim) or tie into something that makes them feel good (so nearly none in Skyrim) and otherwise it feels like being locked into an amusement park ride.
I’m on this level with Bethesda games too. Who else is out here trying to make a game where every single broom is interactable? There’s a magic to that kind of simulationist game design which is the reason why people still mod and play the crap out of Skyrim and FO4, even though I also agree that Bethesda have gotten worse at doing it every single time.
The alternatives, games like The Outer Worlds and Avowed, flop for me because instead of leaning into what’s unique about the game style they spend all of their effort trying to fix the things that are “broken” with it, which just results in a kind of mid open world experience.
outer worlds would be way better if it was more ideological than tim cain is in real life
Well, if they brought back Kirkbride as lead writer with full creative freedom… It will be the most bizarre drug induced fever dream imaginable, but it will be interesting and original.
Let Kirkbride off his leash Todd, c’mon, it’d be funny
Tbf there are way bigger issues than the overarching direction of the writing. Even if they made Kirkbride the director and said everyone else in every department has to accommodate his whims to the best of their ability, the project would still be dragged down by the overwhelming incompetence of everyone else. Kurt Kuhlmann as the lead designer (which was promised to him years ago btw) might have been able to salvage something, but when they broke that promise and lost him entirely I think that was the final nail in the coffin. Absolute hacks like Emil Pagliarulo are gonna have such an outsized role in the game, it’s gonna be a complete dumpster fire
I do not understand how Emil still works there. Everyone can see how dogshit he is.
True. Bring back kirkbride and give him all the dmt and lsd he needs to get the job done
I think Kirkbride is busy with TPUSA now
I did not know he took a right-wing turn. I was mostly aware about him becoming extremely obsessed with Warhammer besides showing up and weighing in on any forums about Elder Scrolls lore.
He’s not, he’s a standard “San Francisco wacky hippie left-libertarian”, so generally ok with an occasional hyper-edgy take.
Sorry, I was making an obtuse joke about Erika Kirk because my brain is cooked. I don’t know anything about Kirkbride besides a little bit of his writing for those series.
That was actually a really good joke I was too dumb to get, so well done imo.
Ahh, okay
Kirkbride has always been pretty quiet about real-world political stuff, and tbh I do get the vibe that he could have some real wacky and problematic views, but his wife Lady N is also active in the TES lore communities and she’s really cool so I’d be really surprised if he ever actually went further right than milquetoast progressive liberalism
I mean his most famous creation is an intersex genderfluid sex-worker god who is problematic yet strangely likeable, he can’t be a complete chud
Yeah, I should be more confident that the guy that made Vivec a central character that married the male protagonist stand-in in CODA wouldn’t be a CHUD, but I have seen some weird pivots. Especially amongst the more bizarre and weird personalities.
The Elder Fallout 17: What da Dad doin?
I wonder if Bethesda games are going to suffer from the same thing as Final Fantasy, where all the fans are in their 30s and 40s because it takes so fucking long for the next game to come out now that young people aren’t becoming fans. Add on the issue that each game they release is worse than the last and it doesn’t bode well for long-term prospects.
Then again people love their open world slop, so perhaps it’ll work.
Bethesda games or more accurately TES and Fallout aren’t on the level of Rockstar games, COD or sports games but since Oblivion/Fallout 3 they’ve been up there on the list of “4 games a non-gamer normie dad gets for his PlayStation/Xbox” where Final Fantasy has never been on that level of mass appeal in the West. It’s just too niche, too anime and too Japanese which is why they tried making the newest one all dark and gritty
Final Fantasy was THE console RPG series for years. It was massively popular, and well-known even to non-gamers, to a degree I’ve never seen since.
In the PS1 era, certainly, but that was a time when console gaming was still dominated by Japanese games. In the 2000s Western-made games became huge in the West to the point that Japanese devs wasted many years trying to ape them to win back the Western market
i think the tweens that aren’t locked in on roblox and fortnite still play skyrim.
Hyping the scale? Should I assume it’s about half the size of Skyrim then?
it’s going to be either the size of Solstheim from Skyrim and there’s a dude every 2 yards yelling at you to do their quest (randomly generated ofc) or it’s going to be half the size of Skyrim and there’s a hub every 50 yards that dispenses quests (randomly generated ofc)
Half the size of Skyrim with quests that get you to go from on side of the map to the other, repeatedly, to give you a proper view of the absolute emptiness between the five houses clusters they call cities. All designed and modeled by AI.
You’re hired!
I have a genuine question, why do people give a shit about how large a Bethesda game is? I could attempt to make the worlds largest pizza and cover it in ketchup and candle wax but that wouldn’t make it good.
To me it seems odd being a size queen when your partner is Graham Linehan.
Because judging them on the quality of their work would be even less kind.
Is it still the same lead writer that was responsible for Fallout 4 and starfield or has he finally been fired?
Edit: it is. How has that man not been fired?
Elder Scrolls 6: Fuckrim
Don’t get hyped by PR stunts before release. It’s Bethesda/Microsoft. It’s very likely going to suck. Don’t preorder. Wait for TONs of different reviews.
Whether it’s Microsoft/Bethsoft, EA, or Ubisoft, their games will always suck and don’t get suckered into buying them. I’m almost certain AAA gaming is just a scam at this point.
My prediction will be a predictably shallow main quest that relies on the player making few to no choices to progress.
The side quests will largely be fetch quests or randomly generated nonsense that is not fun or interesting.
The world will somehow be more generic than Skyrim while making the most lackluster refrences to past lore and canon. I am also predicting extremely small cities, maybe with the exception of one or two. And that is if they don’t go the starfield route of world generation.
Combat may be better than skyrim tho (Fallout 4 was a big improvement over 3)
I just can’t see a Bethesda that ever makes anything as good as Morrowind again.
If you are looking forward to ES6 just buy morrowind and download Tamriel Rebuilt. It’s the best Elder Scrolls game ever made at this point and keeps getting updates
I’ve been holding out for Skywind to come out at this point because I end up spending a week or two setting up Morrowind mod lists
I’m hoping for Elder Scrolls 6: Pussy Riot! All about the Khajit rebelling and taking over.
it’s not fuckings until the modders get to work
(actually i don’t remember if they ported their shit to FO4 and Shitfield or not)
(actually i don’t remember if they ported their shit to FO4 and Shitfield or not)
FO4 yes, Starfield idk.
You’re one character short still
Fuckings
ty for editing
Bullshit (8 letters)
I guess that could work if you shorten it a bit, but “Bullshit (8 letters)” is 20 characters, which is 12 too many.
that’s the number of characters in the string “Skyrim 2”
TES6: Hunter2
Why did you just write asterisks again?
The Elder Scrolls: 15 minute city
Oh thank god, looks like Bethesda is just shipping
games so I don’t have to download 3000 mods from nexus to make it so
