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    Skyler was better at being a drug kingpin than Walter. Walter should have stayed in the (meth) kitchen, and let her make the important decisions.

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          Learning is what Walter did his whole life. He needed to learn, to have contingencies. When you have a death sentence hanging above your head, contingencies stop to matter.

          Walter truly only learned. But Heisenberg no longer cared about it. Walter was a genius chemist. You become that by learning every possible second. Walter learned. Heisenberg? He just did.

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    People hated Skyler more than Todd??? I thought she was annoying and a spoilsport for admonishing my, and the rest of the audience’s, desire to watch a meth empire power fantasy show, but most hated??

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      Different kind of hate, I think. I hate Todd, but I still enjoy having him on the show and am curious / interested in his plot lines.

      Skyler, conversely, just makes me wish she wasn’t in the scene. She’s not enjoyable to hate.

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        Skyler’s role was integral. It was problematic for some who wanted to see more absurd violence and drug-fueled antics. Walter had a whole-ass family that he abandoned to become a crime lord. Yes, the story an indictment is health care in the u.s. Skyler was a human being whose life was ruined, and her kids’ lives were hit

        Edit also, fuck Todd, but he was also a compelling character

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      I don’t even remember Todd I had to look him up. I really disliked Skylar but I definitely don’t hate her more than say, Gus

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    I feel like the reason is obvious. The only thing people hate more than Nazis is Karens.

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      She’s not a Karen though. Her behaviour is perfectly reasonable given the situation she’s in.

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        Exactly, if you didn’t stop at one point during the show and ask yourself “why am I rooting for the drug dealing murderer over this regular woman” then you didn’t think about the concepts involved at all. You passively consumed media. That’s certainly an option but it’s not the intent of the people who made it.

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        Her introduction is her giving her husband an unenthusiastic handjob for his birthday. I can see why she was the most hated.

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          I kind of just assumed that it was a typical depiction of straight people having sex. Nonetheless, an unenthusiastic handjob is a pretty rubbish reason to hate someone.

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    I didn’t like Skyler because she was a normie and I wanted the show to be balls of the walls crazy. Walter = fun times, Skyler = dull times. I did soon realize, without her, there wouldn’t be an anchor to tie it all down and no contrast to Walter wouldn’t make for such an amazing show. Skyler is a good character, absolutely necessary for it to work.
    Then again, people think Walter White is of virtuous character so it may be media literacy.

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      And she was actually a decent human being. Of course she had her faults, but nothing about her behavior was narcissistic or even all that selfish. Even cheating on Walt came about because he pretty much drove her to do it. It’s an explanation — not an excuse.

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    I mean guys, the question is using the common usage of the word hate - i hate strawberry ice cream!

    If the question was who is the most unethical or evil character they wouldn’t have said Skylar except for a handful of incels

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        Right, but others in the thread are saying this constitutes proof that, like, misogyny or something.

        In reality, people hated Skylar because she had the personality of a nagging, entitled, suburban housewife - a Karen - and because she constantly dragged the show into her own sideplot instead of letting it progress down the drug kingpin storyline we were actually interested in.

        Like, I don’t watch Always Sunny because I think the protagonists are good guys, but if a side character was introduced who constantly got in the way of the gang concocting scams, I would hate them too.

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    On my second rewatch, Skyler is so much easier to sympathize with. She just wants to keep her family together and out of trouble. Walt doesn’t communicate and acts out constantly.

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    But did any of those nazi’s have a relationship with another man. After she separated from her drug dealing, murderer, abusive, controlling husband?

    Checkmate atheists.

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      Rewatched the show recently and literally the only thing she did wrong was be cringe and cheat in retaliation (which was, honestly, the only power move she had in the situation)

      Meanwhile Walter’s constantly being the worst human filth imaginable and the living embodiment of “Just one more lane crime, bro, and everything will be good i SWEAR Jesse”

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    There are Nazis in every show. They’re just typically not on screen at all.

    I assume the Nazis in Breaking Bad are on screen for like 15 minutes total.