cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/74920318
Sony went on to say that it takes a “firm stance” against such behavior, which includes examples like “persistent and repeated, or prolonged, demands, excessive or unreasonable demands for compensation or apologies, and abusive language, threats, slander, and other similar behaviors.”
Other examples included “forcing someone to prostrate themselves” and “visiting our offices or related facilities without permission.” If any such behavior is confirmed, Sony says it may “restrict or suspend customer service” to protect its employees — and, if necessary, contact “police, lawyers, etc.” to take legal action or begin criminal proceedings against them.
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Time to hoist the colors.
unreasonable demands for apologies
You’re gonna have to explain that one. How is demanding an apology unreasonable? I think you just dug yourself deeper into the wrong side of this.
‘Member when Neil Druckmann and Sean Murray got personal death threats from Sony’s customers and Sony didn’t do shit. Hell Shuhei Yoshida even threw Murray under the bus for the PR hype disaster of No Man’s Sky during post release interviews instead of standing up for him even though Sony helped Hello Games in hyping the game.
Only now when Sony execs get threatened they do something.
What a way to piss away all thst image building over two decades at least. They put so much effort in being at all the right events, the cool stuff.
Nintendo and Microsoft never were that good in this. Who would’ve thought they’d tear it all down themselves.
What a time to be alive.
The fuck around era is truly in full swing these days.
Sony had better prepare themselves to have pretty quiet chats during their State of Plays, if the one from this morning was any indication. Walls of text that would make China blush wanting Destiny continued and making the displeasure of physical disc production cancelation known would probably fit under this new policy.
Leave it to Sony to come up with new and innovative ways to harass customers.
Don’t forget how they installed rootkits onto all their customers’ computers back in the 00’s via albums
You’re doing God’s work
Keep it up
“Customer Harrasment Policy”
One of the best post titles I have read in a long time.
Now hiring customer disservice representatives
Adversarial relations specialist.
“Due to the decisions we made, we now fear our own customers”. You know, companies that make good products don’t usually fear their customers.
I was literally ready to buy a PS5 for GTA6, money set aside and all. PC gamer through and through but GTA has always been my game. Sony completely ruined that, and I have no interest in it. Unfortunately others are buying them at inflated costs and wiping my personal refusal out, but still. One less playstation sold, Sony.
GTA6 is not a Playstation exclusive. You could buy a Xbox instead. It’s what I’m going to do, used, mostly because I already have an Elite controller. Hell, just buy a PS5 used, and resell it when GTA6 comes out on PC. Sony wouldn’t see a dime of yours.
I’ve been thinking that actually, but they’re overpriced now. But maybe a month or two after release, we’ll see
I’ve been checking near me and a used Series X is about the same as a PS5, especially if you want a disk edition PS5. The main thing giving me pause is the fact that I won’t be able to buy a disk and sell that along with the console. Ugh.
If I go that route it won’t be day one, which means some reviews will come in. This is looking like it may be near RDR2 levels, if it is and reviews confirm it, I could see then deciding to and buying a second copy on PC later.
I would only do that for rockstar and cdpr, honestly because both have made games previously that have been worth it. I get downvoted to hell, but honestly a game like rdr2 is worth $100, even twice over. It’s a masterpiece. Same with cyberpunk for me. If the reviews come in and people say it’s truly a masterpiece, I could be swayed. But that is a pretty high bar.
I don’t think any game should be $100. That said, I am in a position to spend more, and totally would on GTA6. I don’t think it should be $100, let alone more, as many people around the US and world are not in that position right now and with the money printing machine that is GTAO, not to mention the number of copies they’ll sell, they don’t need to charge that much.
When I get my hands on the used Series X I probably will pre-order the day before launch, in order to wait as long as possible for a disk launch announcement.
I think that’s what I’m trying to say though, is rockstar is one if only two that actually may be worth it, and that’s only if they meet a red dead 2 level of relplayability.
I break things down by hours of enjoyment vs cost. So let’s say a movie ticket is 2 hour a for $20 now. So $10/hr. Pretty high. Ubisoft games are $60 and it takes about $60 hours, but I’ll only play it once probably. So $1/hr. Much better than a movie theater but then there’s red dead 2. $60 originally, but I’ve played now 5 times at 120 hours a play through, so 600 hours. (I did not plan for the math to work out that easily, but it’s accurate). So 600 hours, so $0.10/hr. So to me and my personal math, $100 is justified, even twice, if I will be playing it over and over.
It’s also why I truly laugh and shame ubisoft for thinking they deserve the same. There’s absolutely no way it does. It’s 1/10th the value of a rockstar game.
GTAV did the same bullshit, delaying the pc version. GTA4 gave pc players an absolute shitstain version, at release even the strongest systems couldn’t hold a steady 30 fps with max settings.
Rockstar used to be a pc-first developer. In the last 15 years they have actively worked against the interests of their original community, and Microsoft and Sony are gleefully cheering them on.
This goes for anyone considering buying into their bullshit: stop bending over and taking it. This will continue to get worse if the profits outweigh the backlash.
I’ve played gta since 2, and I’m considering getting 6 for the pc, but this timed exclusivity is nothing but bullshit. Full stop, there’s nothing more to it. Don’t support it.
We weren’t talking about Rockstar’s issues, but okay. I agree, I dislike the disdain towards PC players, but I also think they make some of the best immersive games out there, and so far haven’t disappointed. So yes, I was willing to buy into their hype and marketing, but Sony ruined it for them.
I, too, was assuming that at some point I would end up buying a PS5 even though I’m primarily a PC gamer now. I am now also extremely unlikely to do so.
Same. With my gaming laptop it’s not really needed, but it will give me access to the first party titles. I was hoping to grab one used after a couple more years when they’re cheaper, but why would I bother now?
I’m so glad I jumped from the PlayStation wagon at the end of the PS4 cycle!
That’s wild. So basically a user asking for compensation is treated as the same threat level as that user walking into their offices armed.
That “considered reasonable according to social norms” is REALLY open ended, too. That sounds a lot like the social norm they’ve been trying to push for “you won’t own anything and you’ll like it”.I mean, its clearly saying it only qualifies if it’s persistent, repeated and prolonged. They’re clearly talking about people harassing employees. Which isn’t cool. Im not gonna be buying a PS6 because of their decision to be digital only. But, harassing their employees over it is not the way to deal with this.
“You dont have to worry about flock if you’re doing nothing wrong”
We all know this corporation wont be reasonable about these policy changes. Harassment is already illegal, so these changes are not about employees getting harassed.
This. At some point this only bother the poors employees who have no say in the decision.
And also, it’s possible to say you’re unhappy without threats or insults.
I hate the “digital” framing. Blu-Rays are digital media, there hasn’t been a medium carrying analog information that I know of since the laserdisc (yes, even audio CDs are digital)
What Sony wants is download-only titles, probably with some dumb online license check, but the latter could be had with physical discs as well, though it’d probably be an even worse look.
No way this doesn’t “Streisand Effect” the fuck out of them, nope a totally smart play by Sony
It’s time to stop being a Sony customer then. I mean, I’ve not bought a single PlayStation in my entire life so, that’s a start.
This is such a Japanese business thing to do. I’m not even surprised. I understand the need to protect your employees, especially when Japan has a history of whackos damaging businesses that sometimes result in deaths, but this is going a bit far IMO. I think they could comply with Japan’s new law about worker protection without needing to go this route.
In Japan, laws have pretty much always been dictated by big businesses, just look at their defamation laws. Even if what you say is true, if it harms the company in any way, you will still be arrested and are basically guaranteed to lose a case in Japan for that.
I am interested to see if they try to implement this outside Japan. I mean, Japanese businesses almost always try to apply Japanese law outside Japan (most famously, Nintendo), but still interesting to see if it happens.
They continue to make things worse. As of now I’m not touching anything with the name Sony on it. May be a permanent decision.
Be careful, that sounds like a form of harassment and Sony may take action against you!
Sony has never cared about its customers. I don’t know why people bought Sony after they ripped OtherOS out of the Ps3. Millions of people were using that and they destroyed it over something stupid. I’ve been boycotting Sony for over a decade and never understood why people bought the Ps4 and Ps5. Suddenly they all find out again. Well… yeah. This doesn’t surprise me at all.
