• calcopiritus@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    All of those existed way before capitalism. Except the ones that require technology more advanced than what they had available.

    • OwOarchist@pawb.social
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      2 months ago

      And several of them were/are issues in “non-capitalist” countries like the USSR and China. (Though, to be fair, those are still state capitalist.)

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        Capitalism started when some no-nobles started having more power than (some) nobles. Meaning that the power balance shifted from nobles to capitalists. Which happened around (because of) the industrial revolution.

        All of these undoubtedly existed before the industrial revolution: war, monoculture farming, clear cutting forests, building on floodplains, development that destroys habitats.

        These were impossible before the industrial revolution for technological reasons: space tourism, deep sea mining.

        This is impossible without capitalism for semantic reasons: corporations bulldozing ecosystems for endless “growth”. Before capitalism, it wasn’t corporations, and it wasn’t done with a bulldozer. But kingdoms did “bulldoze” ecosystems. And communist countries did bulldoze ecosystems too.

        Golf, lawns: these are harder to prove and I don’t care enough to do the research. Golf probably couldn’t be done before industrial revolution, but maybe a primitive version of golf could be played.

        So at most, the tweet might be right in the best of cases about golf and lawns. Which would make for a much more boring tweet.

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          2 months ago

          That was a huge waste of effort trying to educate somebody that doesn’t care to learn new things.

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            2 months ago

            The purpose of these kinds of posts isn’t just to educate the poster, it’s to inform anyone reading that may be undecided/uninformed.

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        2 months ago

        are you really that ignorant? Have you failed that much in basic, elementary education or are you just intentionally being stupid?