This was already reported. Expensive flagships will release first, with more affordable devices to follow. Motorola already makes some of the best budget devices.
The fact that a phone costs that much is still completely heinous and sets the bar WAY too fucking high.
Sigh, I guess I’m interested based on the brand and the OS. But that’s hard to swallow. I really want this sort of product. I guess they have to make up for all the kickbacks they won’t be getting from the bloatware that will no longer be there.
Security isn’t for poor people I guess
It reality hhh
It’s annoying because I’ve gotten very security-conscious over the last year, but shit like this makes it feel like I can’t achieve what I want unless I get rich.
I mean, you can get a refurbished unlocked pixel 8 straight from google for $380 and put grapheme on it… Even less if you buy a used phone or third party refurb.
$380’s still a bit steep in my position right now, but I appreciate the ideas. Thank you!
You can try other opensource system depend on your phone
Almost all the other ones are reportedly worse at security than the stock OS, only Graphene is more apparently. At least according to their team, I know they trash Lineage and E a lot.
Try to buy pixel 8 or 9 it’s a little cheapest
Honestly right now my heads at riding out the rest of this phone’s contract (It was a Galaxy A16 I got for free because I needed desperately off my old, end of life S9) and switching to iPhone, cuz that has almost all the security but none of the breakage of a custom rom.
Dude WHY!? That’s more expensive than the Steam Frame with accessories!
- 4 nm Snapdragon® 8 Gen 3 - ARM64
- 16GB Unified LPDDR5X RAM
- 256GB UFS storage, microSD card slot
- Rechargeable 21.6 Wh Li-ion battery
- 2160 x 2160 LCD (per eye)
- 72-144Hz refresh rate (144Hz experimental)
- Inside-out camera based tracking
- Headset: Wi-Fi 7, 2x2, Dual Radios
- Wireless Adapter Included (Wi-Fi 6E)
- Bluetooth 5.4
- Dual speaker drivers per ear, dual microphone array
- SteamOS 3
- Steam Frame Controllers – full 6-DOF and gamepad controls
- Half-Life: Alyx included
…so, how come the phone costs twice as much as the steam frame?
Look! We tried it, and nobody will buy it!!! Nothing to see here, back to stealing everyone’s data!
Yeah, I’m thinking this too. The old "but we gave the option to people, but people just don’t care."
The “option” :
Off the top of my head I’m guessing that the cost isn’t being subsidized by data mining and certain social media companies paying for their apps to be impossible to completely remove.
Absolutely not
there goes my ability or desire to have one. see ya.
GrapheneOS reigns surpreme. We should all use it. But I am not buying a phone for €2000. Count me out.
So, a security OS, but people are letting a third party install it so security is as good as any other option.
I don’t think this comment gets enough attention. This is exactly the problem here. You can’t trust any company not to compromise the security on their product.
The issue is its not true. The phone just supports GrapheneOS, it doesn’t come with it, you still have to do that
Any chance we get a Lite or an “a” series of this phone? Or a more affordable Motorola that meets GrapheneOS’ strict hardware requirements?
Based on my understanding, yes. There will be more affordable models later, they’re supposed to have a full line-up.
But for now, the affordable GOS phone is still a Pixel.
L M F A O
Huh, only about 4 bucks? Why is it so cheap?
I was really hoping to pay Motorola somewhere around $800-$1200 for a legit option for GrapheneOS that doesn’t involve Google’s hardware.
But at $1600, I don’t think I can justify that.
€1.900 is $2,133 in American, according to a quick Google ask.
Agreed. Can’t justify spending that on a phone. And unfortunately, many others will feel the same, which will result in low sales and it being declared a failure, putting another nail in the coffin for privacy focused consumer products.
I know the Signature is supposed to be their ‘ultra flagship’, but 2 grand?
The worst thing is that I’d even be half interested it it wasn’t this expensive…
I dont exactly have a problem spending $2000 on something, but $2000 for a phone is just stupid.
I guess you could say that about a lot of things; cars, etc.
But just on principle. That phone is not costing 4x more to make, and is not giving me 4x the value as a $500 phone. Or, fuck, give me 10x the value of the $200 phone I have right now that does absolutely everything I want (I guess a better camera would be nice).
I would maybe consider spending $2000 on a phone if it was functionally as usable as a laptop. Which Android is not.
Apple could totally make their new phones work with MacOS as they’ve shown with the MacBook Neo, when connected to a monitor, but they won’t.
It would be pretty amazing if they did though.
I think a powerful Linux phone plus a laptop chassis that connects to the phone somehow and turns it into a laptop would be really nice
The company that made the Nexdock is planning to make a phone. It will be Android but it can bring up a full Linux desktop that can access the Android storage. I am considering getting it and only using Android for calls, texts, and a couple apps while I install phosh UI in the distro and focus on using that.
I’d pay 2 grand for a car if it was running
All this stuff about the memory crisis; I don’t think phones suddenly cost 4x more to make and if they do, how about don’t put fucking 16GB of RAM in phones?
I can see 16GB phones being useful, but there needs to be cheaper options
The only use I can see for them is gaming and there are better devices for that, for less money.
Running your own LLM models is another one I guess, but I don’t think there’s many people doing that.
Some of us enjoy mobile gaming
But if you had the choice between playing on a phone and playing on a Steam Deck/ROG Ally/MSI thing would you still stick to your phone?
I do not have $2000 so I would mind spending that much on anything
$3075 AUD? Bruh
I’d like to have one, but there’s no fucking way a goddamned PHONE is worth $2000
especially today, when updates are so miniscule, I’m in shock when I realize the pixel 7 I got refurbished still works fine, with zero reason to update.
Yep, been doing used pixels for a while now. They’re all the same anyway. I don’t care about the camera.
My kids are dopes and constantly break screens so I’m not about to buy anything nice. We all have the same model and a spare. Broken, eBay screen, bring in the spare, fix the broken one, is now the spare.
You’ll get a new phone when it doesn’t get updates anymore, then you’ll just get the next one up.
Spending more than $300 on a phone is nuts to me. They’re all the same candy bar anyway.
