This list could be a good starting point to determine which city is best for those who have to work to live.

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    14 hours ago

    Funny how Copenhagen is almost dead center in the middle at 51. Real estate in Copenhagen is pretty expensive, it’s hard to find anything decent below ½ million Euro even in the suburbs. But Denmark also has the highest wages in EU.
    So expensive real estate but many people also have a lot of money.

    I find it a bit difficult to derive much real info from this?
    UK has lots of “relatively” cheap places if you go outside London. I guess that’s nice for the Brits. 🤷‍♂️

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        5 hours ago

        This data can’t produce useful results for my country because of multi-generational houses where house is defacto subdivided into apartments but dejure its single family home.

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      13 hours ago

      I think real info is how attainable is solid standard of living if you assume that buying your home is the single biggest expense item in your life. So I think you could min-max a “best” city in terms of work/life.

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        11 hours ago

        I bet in for instance urban Romania a car is a greater cost than a home. Also UK may have cheap housing, but most of it looks like slum by Danish standards. So no not really.
        Also Denmark is in the middle, but has one of the best work/life ratios in Europe.

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          I bet in for instance urban Romania a car is a greater cost than a home.

          That is ridiculous statement.

          Also Denmark is in the middle, but has one of the best work/life ratios in Europe.

          I think those take rent not buying costs into account? Does Denmark also have very long mortages?

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            7 hours ago

            https://www.properstar.co.uk/listing/121178648

            Yes you can get cheaper cars, it was an exaggeration on the misunderstanding that you can judge completely different things from stat.
            But what is considered a mid range car here is more expensive than some houses in Romania.

            I think those take rent not buying costs into account? Does Denmark also have very long mortages?

            That doesn’t even make sense, property prices and rent are nor directly connected, there are other factors like taxes. Yes we have long mortgages up to 30 years, why?

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                4 hours ago

                Yes it is small, it’s barely enough for our house, and we have 1667 m2.
                Still this is an English listing, and I didn’t search long. So how cheap it is IDK.
                It wasn’t meant to be taken literally, but the outliers exist where it’s the case that even a midrange car can be more expensive than a house.

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              6 hours ago

              You can find cheaper rural unfinished houses in France: https://www.properstar.co.uk/listing/121305184

              property prices and rent are nor directly connected,

              Yes they most certainly are, as rent is the main input of using a house as an investment. The simplest method of gauging if it’s better to rent or buy a property in an area is to use the price to rent ratio.

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    16 hours ago

    Brussels seems like the best choice from here. I’ve been there only once. It’s nice but the not nicest parts are quite on the not nice side of things. Maybe this is what brings the ratio down?