From now on a new rule is in place

Rule 8: The subject of a post must be highly visible, which means that it is either highly upvoted/liked/viewed, posted by a public figure or widely known of in society.

Reworded rule:

Rule 8: The subject of a post cannot be low hanging fruit, that is comments/posts made by a private person that have low amount of upvotes/likes/views. Comments/Posts made on other instances that are accessible from hexbear are an exception to this.

c/the_dunk_tank should be about dunking on capitalist/reactionary ideas floating in society not about finding one idiot to get mad at, so the rule has been introduced to make sure that is the case

  • ElGosso [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    37·
    7 months ago

    The purpose of this comm is literally to quarantine all of the “finding an idiot to get mad at” posts. This rule change is gonna make the rest of the site worse.

  • buckykat [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    35·
    7 months ago

    :downbear:

    The thing about ideas floating in society is that they are often expressed by random idiots.

    Also, the criteria of highly upvoted or well known are arbitrary and ill defined.

  • disposable_cracker [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    28·
    7 months ago

    Some of the funniest ones are weirdos in comment sections though.

    Edit: on second thought, OP is right. The point and laugh at random libs vibe creates a mean environment. IDK what any chapo says: bullying doesn’t work (inb4 PIGPOOPBALLS). This rule change should drive out bad people much like the removal of downvotes have.

    I have deleted my offending posts.

  • PointAndClique [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    27·
    7 months ago

    I like low level dunks because they are the kind I interact with offline too, and the responses and critiques are applicable to how I interact with those people or in those spaces.

    Like if I see a common sinophobic trope being shopped around, then I get a good counter to it in the dunk tank, I can use it when a friend or whoever brings it up irl.

    Higher profile people don’t necessarily truck in the same rhetoric as people thinking they’re posting in semi-anonymous online spaces. If the dunk tank is going to be useful, and serve as a useful venting space/containment zone, then putting some arbitrary cutoff of ‘oh a few hundred followers needed before we can drag this shithead’ is a counterproductive rule imo

    Also I don’t care

    Edit: i mean, I’m okay with your moderation decision. I understand what you’re going for, but I think what I’m trying to say is that personally i don’t see low hanging fruit as a problem. To me it’s cathartic to be like ‘check out this trasheap’ and have a few friends also lay in the boot, while I don’t post in this comm, I have like, one friend irl who I do share ragebait with when I come across it, it’s kinda like oh I haven’t messaged person x in a while, I’ll flick them this thing I saw and ask him what’s up, and if I didn’t, I’d probably share it here as an outlet?

    Edit edit: also yeh the change has been made so not sure even why it’s worthwhile sharing my view on it now anyway. I’m sleepy night y’all

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    27·
    7 months ago

    What’s the bar for “well/widely known” here, would dunking on some loser like Stefan Molyneux or Ian Miles Cheong be allowed? They are pretty damn irrelevant compared to the expert-shapiro / up-yours-woke-moralists realm where they have actual reach.

    • replaceable [he/him]@hexbear.netOPMEnglish
      34·
      7 months ago

      The purpose of the rule is to stop dunking on one(1) upvote comments, these are public figures even if relatively obscure so they would be allowed

  • christian [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    27·
    7 months ago

    I actually love this rule. I had the dunk tank blocked for a year or two because I was finding that the experience of getting angry at random nobodies while scrolling through posts was making hexbear a lot less enjoyable for me. With that said, at some point (a couple months ago?) I saw some great piece of comedy before logging in and decided to unblock.

  • cosecantphi [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    25·
    7 months ago

    Could we make exceptions for posts and comments in close proximity to Hexbear? Like on a federated instance just outside of Hexbear mod jurisdiction? Or posts that mention Hexbear, or made in reply to a Hexbear user?

    My last dunk tank post would not be allowed under this rule, but I felt it was super productive. It brought attention to an asshole dbzer0 poster commenting on .ml. Hexbear got to do a classic anti-chud dogpile, the user was brought to the attention of the dbzer0 and .ml admins/mods, and eventually their comment was removed. I’ve always felt this was the sort of thing c/the_dunk_tank was made for; after a dogpile like that, it’s far less likely for lurkers to take the chud’s side. It’s always been an extension of the r/CTH culture of using bullying as a deterrent, it makes chuds think twice about whether or not it’s worth sharing their shitty opinions.

    Here’s a link to it: https://hexbear.net/post/2139624

    The person has no upvotes in the screenshot, but that’s because their comment was in direct reply to me, so I was able to post it here before any other chuds came along to upvote it.

  • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    24·
    7 months ago

    OK if someone on twitter or reddit or discord makes me mad and they’re just a random I will merely post it in the mega and annoy those people instead. Thats what I was doing with low profile things anyway.

    Sorry but I absolutely do need to vent to like minded people when something like that happens lmao that will not be ceasing.