Keys have existed for over 4000 years.
Stop trying to reinvent shit that isn’t broken.
If they make everything incredibly complicated people will either throw their hands up and become completely dependent on company controlled techs or spend 16 hours a day keeping up with minute tech changes. Either way we’ll lack the ability toe control our lives.
Get off of our instance Nazi
actually fash or is this a meme?
They were in another thread complaining about leftists refusing to vote for Biden over the genocide. They delete all their comments after like 30 minutes so you kind of have to piece the conversation together from responses that other people had.
oh fuck em
I dont think people doing lesser evilism/harm reduction rhetoric should be called Nazis though? Like Nazism is a very specific thing and words should remain meaning things. Just call it what it is, liberalism, liberalism is already bad enough you dont need to call liberals something else lol.
Also I promise you, if you get outside the bubble of Hexbear, there are incredibly well meaning people who still believe in lesser evil voting. Hell, that was me up until the Gaza genocide began in earnest. (I mean, I didnt vote for Biden in 2020, but that was only because I lived in a state where I felt safe making a statement vote). I was full on in communism, I just though lesser evil voting was the right strategy for the proletariat. I wont bother arguing my reasons because I dont believe them anymore lol, but reality is a lot of people do think that way. A lot of them are queer people who have been gaslit by the Dems and their supporters into believing that Dems will protect them from being killed for being queer and think lesser evilism is self preservation. They’re wrong, but their motives are definitely not Nazism. In fact I largely see them as victims of a proactivly gaslighting political party. In their minds they dont think voting for Biden will make the genocide worse so they don’t see a problem with it. It took me a loooooong time to understand how my vote is actively an endorsement of the bad things a politician does because in my mind I wasnt voting for that, I was voting specifically for the differences. It took me until very recently to understand that the politician doesnt see it that way and sees it as an endorsement of everything they are doing.
Now granted, they dont go around talking down to communists who are anti-electoral (or anti-electoral in this specific instance) or actively pushing lesser evilism ideologically, not the ones I’m specifically referring to that are part of my life anyway, its more of a personal choice for them. But still, fuck Dagwood but I think you should be accurate in what you call him. I dont see how “Get off of our instance liberal” is bad to say instead. In fact I think its a marked improvement to be accurate in what we call people.
[Unless at one point he did actual genocide denial or support in one of those posts I cant see because they were deleted lol].
Sorry, I know this is pendanticish and maybe Im getting caught up in my autism, but Ive always been against calling liberals Nazis because words mean things and liberalism is already bad. You can talk about things like how fascism is liberal capitalism in decay, how even before that decay liberalism has fascist characteristics, how liberals will always enable fascism, how liberals will start acting like fascists when scratched, and so on. Those are all true. But Id still call them separate things. Related, but separate.
Also I predict a response of like “Biden is already supporting a genocide how is he not already a fascist” and my preemptive response to that is that liberal capitalism in the imperial core has always supported genocidal actions in the exploited places. It becomes fascism when its turned inward. And while there are some things going on that are are fascistish (family separation and locking up asylum seekers in general being the biggest, but also certain things the police are doing, the movements in that direction towards trans people, and the backsliding on abortion) I’m not ready to call it that yet. Maybe the difference is that you are. But I think thats misguided if so tbh. And its not like you even said fascist, you said Nazi, which has even more characteristics specific to that specific ideology than just fascism generally that I don’t think “I think you should vote for the lesser evil in FTP liberal democracy” really crosses the line into lol.
I understand the reluctance to call them fascists, and you are correct that liberal is a disgusting sort of political position on its own. But, and I know that you tried to preempt this, they are supporting a genocide.
I know that liberal capitalism already imposes barbaric conditions and mass murder on the world, but what is happening in Gaza is different. It’s a concentration camp, filled with children, it is being relentlessly bombed. While this happens so much video footage of the horrors is coming out on the internet, that it may as well be happening in my town, may as well be happening in Dagwood’s town, in terms of visibility.
It can’t be denied, there is no plausible deniability for people supporting Biden at this point. Liberal leaders have always committed atrocities just like fascist leaders. But the rank and file members of liberal parties have always been able to comfort themselves with the illusion that they are morally upright, with Gaza they have abandoned this. They demand that we support, as they do, the genocide that we all see unfolding with our own two eyes.
And yes I did say Nazi and not simply fascist. Nazi calls to mind the death camps that these people have shown themselves to be okay with in a way that fascist doesn’t.
People like this are liberals, you’re not wrong, but there’s a reason that we say scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds. People like Dagwood are thoroughly scratched.
They’re in another thread telling us all we have to for Palestinian genocide
this is genocide free instance
I hope Hind Rajab comes back from the dead and claws your eyes out
This is the dumbest thing. I had to rescue a Tesla owner a couple of weeks ago, she was stuck in our lobby because her phone battery died and she couldn’t open her car so I went back to get her a charger
Can’t believe that dumbass walks around without the credit card sized key.
Yeah I couldn’t believe how insane it was. Her charger was, of course, inside the car….
At least she was nice and brought me cookies the next time I saw her :3
Still love the car!
Imagine being stranded because your phone died lol
Imagine being stranded because the cellular network signal is too weak
It’s a mall crawler that they pretend people will take offroading, too
At least with iphones if you have no signal and your phone is dead, you will still be able to use it to get into the car.
Physical keys, physical buttons, physical currency
I will never budge on any of this
Physical media storage, too. Fuck the cloud.
Pushing play on the touchscreen 50 times bc it won’t register
Now imagine doing this while driving 80 miles in a modern pick up truck.
touchscreens while driving? they have played us for absolute fools
Me with a touchscreen phone, no cash, and since it was mentioned, and keeping everything in cloud storage (mostly because I dont have room for it all on my harddrive, but also so I can access it on multiple devices).
Not that you’re not right. The touchscreen is only because thats the only thing being made anymore anyway lol. I find cash inconvenient but you’re completely correct about it ideologically speaking.
oh they will make you
Return to physical keys and mandate that they cost 20$
You ever lost a key and had to buy a new one? It’s like 150$ for no reason!
Go to a key copier and make one as a backup I’ve never paid more than like $20 for a key literally ever.
Modern cars have keyless entry and push start so you can’t simply make a backup key at a locksmith. They can duplicate the emergency key that serves as a backup for the door but it won’t start the car because you need the code programmed in.
Even modern-ish cars that have a transponder key which looks like a “normal key” can cost over $100 to replicate, even without a key fob.
Damn we are living in two completely different worlds then. I completely forgot that cars are like that now. My truck is a 2002 Toyota tundra.
buys multi ton metal heap
yeah sure the key fob is wasteful
If something needs an app to operate I don’t buy it ever. Simple as. Stop trying to shove your malware addled garbage onto me.
Yeah my phone is certainly never dead when I’m away from my home. These people are clowns.
Having the fob in my pocket and just getting in the car and turning it on is way more convenient than getting out my phone, waiting for Face ID to fail twice, and then entering my passcode.
i drive a car with a key. like the kind you insert into the ignition and turn. i was giving somebody from work a ride the other day, and they were like, “wow, i haven’t seen one of those in a while!”
i know i’ll probably have to do the FOB thing eventually (because the future is when every simple mechanism requires a battery), but i would refuse anything that needed my phone. yes, let’s make the cell phone, the device that has 10-20X’d in price in 15 years and become the near-universal tether to work, identity, and payment become the single point of failure that renders one completely fucked if broken, stolen, lost, or drained.
people who bazinga over shit like this are people who confuse being dependent on a technology with understanding a technology.
Boomer question, but how do you drop your car off for an oil change or whatever without a key?
at the certified and approved service desk with the dealership, where you can pay top dollar for parts and labor and you have no recourse to their diagnostics.
or, as those of us olds with now-classic cars refer to it as, the stealership. remember: you didn’t buy a vehicle. you bought the ability to drive it sometimes and the right to funnel more money to the manufacturer/broker when it fucks up.
Here’s the valet key, a second phone
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As someone with a Tesla. There are “keys” they are just cards, think rfid cards for those who know, if you don’t just think credit card size.
I can’t be the only person who doesn’t have a constant, uninterrupted cell signal and constant access to a wall outlet. The idea that everything for everyone can always be done on a cell phone always seems like unexamined, tech utopianism.
“Your OS is not compatible with this application, update your phone’s OS”
clicks system update in Settings
“Your phone is no longer supported and cannot upgrade to the current version of this operating system.”
Keyfobs have physical buttons that provide tactile feedback that a phone can never offer
That in and of itself makes the keyfob superior
To be fair, nothing in a Tesla has physical feedback. It’s all touchscreens and fly by wire
And it’s objectively a worse experience for it.
If your tesla goes up in flames you got the physical feedback regarding your discission of buying a tesla.
That a phone can never offer… anymore.
I was hanging out with my friend and he said he couldn’t check his phone but the reason why is embarrassing.
Turns out his battery was low and he couldn’t start his Tesla without it lol