Welcome again to everybody, and happy anniversary of the founding of the Communist Party of Vietnam . Make yourself at home and pay your respects to Ho Chi Minh. In the time-honoured tradition of our group, here is the weekly discussion thread.
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Europeans are awfully loud about ICE and Trump while Frontex exists. Last week 380 people drowned in the Mediterranean.
The grim reality is that most politically active Westerners you see are just following social media trends. If Frontex was making headlines you’d see protests for it also.
Like the average politically minded person (Liberal, but most of Europeans who are politically active are libs) is operating at a level that if they see something on the News they think it’s important, because it’s on the News.
Have a good week, everyone! Remember that we live in an era of imperialist decline, where the international dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, the US Empire, is on its last legs.
As always, communism will win. We will win.
I think we are in an era of imperialist decline, but look, the Soviet Union said the same thing 40 years or so ago and everyone thought the defeat of the United States was inevitable. Seriously, people thought that back then; I read about it and it’s astonishing. They were making a few similar arguments to today’s arguments too.
We must NOT let our guard down for one second and press the attack forward while also not expecting China to swoop in and save us.
We should not let our guard down, no, but we do need to maintain revolutionary optimism.
Yes, that’s true indeed.
To add to this, decline isn’t something that is guaranteed to happen swiftly. The decline and subsequent fall of Rome took centuries. I know that’s a cliche example, but it’s still useful to think of imperialist decline in this way. Considering the scale of its hegemony, the US nation-state is likely to follow a similar path of withering over time.
Furthermore I’d like to add that an Empire built upon, formed by, beneficial of and propagated on Violence, will most definitely express violence on the development of its decline, as we can see it currently and historically
Yeah
Have faith that that’s the case but also tie down your camel 🐪 - Hakim, probably
I’m officially done with Reddit. I’m sure I’m late to this party but apparently saying “I hope the flu finishes him [Mitch McConnell] off” is a threat of violence that is ban worthy
But people can post actual Nazi memes all over the site and its totally fine
Oh I recognize this style of moderation. Not punishing the hateful people but punishing the people who call out the hateful people. It’s such backwards shit, but is probably intentional on some level since liberalism is more aligned with nazis and the like than they are anywhere near aligned with liberation. Liberalism loves to weaponize decorum selectively to punish people who try to speak truth to power.
The delinquency and slanders by the racist ableist principal of Parkdale CI high school of Toronto, Canada, and the Tibetan immigrant thugs with their hypocrisy against their free Tibet principle against Hong Kong immigrants and disabled children duing 2012 provide credibility to your claim. My hypocritical abusive ableist parents also proved your claim as well. The victims of Communism, like the Tankiejerkers, use slogan of democracy, rule of law, and human rights to fool the people. They even complained that freedom of speech and human rights are for spoiled kids.
It’s the same moderation style the Steam Forums employ.
Tell a Nazi to crawl into a bunker and follow his leader and you get banned immediately - oh, but calling for a Second Holocaust to exterminate all Jews? Takes several weeks and multiple mass reports just to get the post removed.
Fucking scumbags.
Sounds like it’s a pretty prolific/systemic thing, based on my own experiences and others. Liberalism organically reproducing the same type of response due to similar material conditions? Or some of it perhaps due to state infiltration in organizations, I wonder? At first glance, the infiltration thought might sound odd for something like game forums, but I remember stuff in the past about like the CoD series having former state dept type people involved. The connection there was more obvious why, with what those games are like, using their storytelling to push imperialist narratives. But I would not put it past happening in other game contexts too. A platform like Steam would certainly make sense for a thing like that, with how wide-reaching its influence is in gaming.
got forced into the party after reddit banned 3 accounts of mine that had no activity save only VIEWING r/tankiethedeprogram
I have been very loosely keeping up with the news these days, and have been skimming through the new Epstein stuff. It’s got me wondering, has anyone here elaborated on why these files are being released to begin with?
If they have to release something, just to keep some sort of legitimacy, what is the benefit of releasing so many files?
I read that some of the files got taken down at some point, but why were they published in the first place?If someone wrote a comment or post on this before, I’d appreciate a link.
I think it’s a fluke, but it also shows the United States is still technically a democracy albeit with a strong fascist movement and base. If you think about it, America wasn’t even supposed to be a democracy and the lower classes had to fight for the right to vote (which is still tenuous today).
Honestly, what you see is also just good ole’ bourgeois infighting as well… so what else is new? We’ve seen this before.
I think para-politics can only go so far in explaining things and often leads to conspiracism in ML circles (with many justifying it with phrases like "Well, conspiracies DO happen, " which is true, but ultimately reductive in explaining things), but infighting among various factions in the bourgeois class is an explanation that makes sense, is verifiably true, and has happened throughout history.
So, honestly, what you ask is not a bad question, but it does have an answer that’s likely true.
I think para-politics can only go so far in explaining things and often leads to conspiracism in ML circles […] but infighting among various factions in the bourgeois class is an explanation that makes sense, is verifiably true, and has happened throughout history.
I’m not implying that there’s some sort of conspiracy or that it’s unexplainable. There was an active decision to release these documents, I’m just trying to understand to whose benefit it is, and why was the decision made to release them.
I know you are not.
I think Trump is such a sadist that he wants people to know the stuff he has done. He gets off on people squirming hearing the horrific stories and knowing there is nothing the can do to stop him. He wants the spirit of Ayn Rand to praise him like she did William Edward Hickman.
He is using the remaining undisclosed files to keep the faction who have shame in line and using some other files that would hurt his faction as bait. “If you let me release this one you can have the one where I said this.” In reality he want all the files out. He wants for everyone to think he is a monster and either revile him or worship him for his complete abandonment of humanity. His aspiration is to go to the grave as the most sadistic man in history.
It won’t surprise any latino that has been abroad but as it turns out, the ICE goons that murdered Alex Pretti last names, allegedly, were Ochoa and Gutierrez. Gusanos being the boots on the ground for gringo fascists as always.
Scratched libs are probably celebrating the diversity of the brown skinned brown-shirts murdering white men in the street as a step in the right direction from white cops killing black men in the streets.
i’m not saying i don’t believe u + that it’s impossible, but what’s a source for this?
Conselheiro posted this article yesterday. Their names are Jesús Ochoa and Raymundo Gutiérrez.
thank u!!
So Tallinn was great despite the relentless cold. It was so cold that the sea froze for up to like 400 m off the coast so I got to walk across a frozen sea, which was dope. I visited a museum that had portraits of Lenin and Stalin to my surprise and it was 't overly negative of the Soviet Union.
I did notice that I got a lot of pro EU ads on my social media feed while being here so I wonder if the EU has got a campaign going over here. Lots of Ukraine flags everywhere too. The Russian embassy here was plastered with it. There was also a poster of the socialist heads with Putin next to it saying something like ‘no more communism again’ which was just hilariously shitty. I started to wonder if their support for Ukraine only comes from a deep hatred of Russians. Which is weird because like 1 in 4 people in Tallinn is Russian. Never heard this much Russian spoken anywhere.
Russian-speakers in Estonia? And in such a large quantity too… That’s quite interesting.
Did you see where ZA/UM is based or their headquarters anywhere (before they inevitably turned shitty by firing their head writers)?
Yeah there are like 200k+ Russian (speaking) people in Estonia. The total population is 1.3 million so it’s a sizeable amount of people as well. Half of them live in Tallinn.
Didn’t see such thing really.
Ah, got it.
im glad u had a good time !!! walking on a frozen sea sounds awesomesauce
(hypnotic voice) you WILL stop getting disappointed by impotent liberalism 2 minutes before bed <- speaking from experience
(edited comment bc it was silly nothingburger complaint)
(hypnotic voice) you will sleep at appropriate times
(comment was edited for similar reasons)
Get some slepp
I recommend just using YouTube anonymously anyways.
Lol @ libs now speculating that Epstein was a russian asset.
this is the most russian thing ever actually not american no siree not american
Where?
What are they saying exactly?
There’s an article on The Telegraph titled: Epstein’s links to Putin and Kremlin spies raise fears he was Russian agent
11 minutes ago LBC uploaded a video titled: Jeffrey Epstein: Russian agent?
What idiocy.
From Mexico! We keep raising our voice for our Venezuelan comrades!
I don’t really know where to put this, it’s tangential to the Epstein case. So I’m spoilering it, but feel free to remove it.
I just thought someone might want some ammo if they ever run int one of those people from the Baltics.
spoiler
Source?
Billie Eilish dropping the US is a settler genocidal state on thr grammys was not on my bingo card but it is pleasant surprise.
I don’t watch the Grammies…what happened sorry?
She said you can’t be illegal on stolen land in her speech
@ conservatices got DESTROYED with this one from the # extreme left! /j, s
Marxism-Eilishism strikes again
long live breadtubist-rachelist thought with eilish characteristics
Snack and biscuits from the DPRK!
are those communist oreos in the last pic
Yep! Buy some if you ever go to the DPRK as a tourist!
let me in 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Pretty nice packaging, they’re keeping up on the graphic design area.
The way American’s talk about regime change is so insane. Random people with little to no geopolitical knowledge and absolutely no political experience, will flippantly say, “This is a great opportunity for regime change in Iran, we can’t pass this up.” Or, “I would love to see the Cuban regime toppled.”
They talk as if they are strategizing military generals, in on the plan. Like bro, you are just some random American, how would any of this even benefit you?
Having a reasonable conversation on the topic can feel like a Sisyphean task.
It’s literally all they talk about all the time in mainstream media, just drooling and drooling about regime change.
i inhabit a lot of online spaces with kids in them (cuz i am one) and theyre usually usamerican/dominated by usamerican state dept talking points or adjacent gusanos. the amount of free palestine flags next to free iran/ukraine flags are a bit crazy (ukraine doesnt count bc its not regime change of zelenskyy but it’s desire for russia regime change)
when i was younger and in my leftist but not ML phase there was a lot of yapping about mahsa amini
And westerners then wonder why Vietnam’s got a plan against color revolution and the US. Goddamn the NED, the USAID, and all those ‘civil society’ regime change networks of 'NG’Os they’ve webbed up
Amerikkka and Europe should get themselves regime-changed, ffs.
I aim to go to Vietnam and then travel to China this year.
I should see this.
learning about ukraine from non bourgeois western rags/corepig sources is so scary genuinely what the fuck. like what the fuck. this is a terrible war for all involved yes and i wish it wasn’t happening and that it wasn’t basically sending ukrainians off to die, but also, what the fuck? what the fuck??? keep in mind this is my first taste of just parsing the sources of the post on genzhou/death to nato (also seeing one blogger from russia i kept up with share posts about the topic/donbass) but like, what the fuck
when al-aqsa flood started i immediately learned and became an adamant defender of palestine and their armed resistance (and it was so easy, really, like, genuinely so easy, retrospectively i’m awed by the abundance of pro palestine information on social media counter to the mainstream narratives), and it was kind of surreal watching many people, even those who weren’t aware prior, shed off the endless barrage of misinformation about palestine despite how much hasbara tried. that was a triumph over factual reality over deeply evil sludge, but even till now, ukraine war to me has been a simplified conflict because every source has been correctly like it’s bad people are dying and as such we must balkanize/obliterate russia. i started questioning the latter half of that sentiment early on and it has always been a bit bizarre to me how racist it all was in regards to dehumanizing russians (not to say that i didn’t fall in that hole as a libbed up kid) but now i am trying to learn more, and as i find something out about nato, or about ukraine far-right, etc. etc., the donbass, i feel incredibly fucking sick. what the hell
i have had ukrainian friends and other central asian friends nowadays that were rightfully exhausted and disillusioned and scared by the war. but now i feel even more lost and angry and confused–nato is sending ukraine off for destruction for what? but then i know!! and i feel like throwing up. how many people are suffering??? how is this acceptable to anyone!!! (not placing htis above ‘israel’ as a crime, but. what the fuck)
pardon this utterly bizarre crop, okay
i dont use tumblr and no longer have an account (mainstream social media is stupid anyway) but i found this rb from another blog i look at anonymously for takes on geopol/ukraine conflict and uh. yeah haha. wow
also, yes wikipedia is rags for anything regarding geopol, yesyes, but it’s also funny seeing how people can first see how their stuff on palestine is wrong (endlessly charitable to israel, we know this), but then ukraine: since ppl cant see western bias and lean towards ukraine, you can go to stuff like stepan bandera’s wikipedia page and just see 'he’s a far right figure who SOME call a fascist (because his followers killed jews and poles en masse, it’s truly so complicated)" like wow
from something called genevasolutions / https://genevasolutions.news/ukraine-stories/who-was-stepan-bandera-ukraine-s-controversial-nationalist-figure as i did cursory search for stepan bandera. wow thank u. this is utterly horrifying to see posted publicly, and distills every evil part of western propaganda into one poison. italics my own
Revered by many (who??? who in specific? azov???) as a national hero who fought Soviet domination, and as a fascist responsible for killing tens of thousands by others, Stepan Bandera remains a deeply divisive figure in Ukraine. …Who was he and what do we know?
After the war, Stepan Bandera continued to oppose Russia’s Soviet regime, which ended up assassinating him in 1959.
During WWII, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) was formed, and ethnic cleansings were carried out in Volynia, Poland. Although Bandera was the leader of the liberation movement, he didn’t personally take part in these actions, nor did he directly participate in the anti-Soviet movement of western Ukraine. Despite these ambiguities, today, he is considered a symbol of resistance by many Ukrainians. His idolisation and that of the Ukrainian nationalists who fought against the USSR began in the 1990s, when far right activists (son) emerged in western Ukraine.
trying to follow no investigation no right to speak and trying to find good sources but im on the western interwebs… ha…
and dont worry they DO equate nazi germany and soviets as totallytarian this is beyond satire what if we all just shat
