Is bad bunny not white? I thought Puerto Rico was colonized by the spanish wiping out the majority of the native population and he looks pretty spanish. I guess this is one of those “the Irish aren’t white” situations.
The reason for this is that race is a made-up concept.
Race is a pure “us-vs-them” term. That’s why the term “race” was roughly equivalent to “nationality” in most European languages before the term fell out of use after WW2.
If you read texts from 1920s Europe, they frequently talk about the “French race”, the “German race” or the “English race”. When the Nazis talked about the “uber race”, they didn’t mean white people, but instead meant German people. They saw the French, the English and so on as inferior races. (Which makes the concept of neonazis from other countries than Germany quite absurd.)
In the USA, there weren’t enough people of one nationality to dominate the area, so they had to band together and create a “shared white identity”, so their us-vs-them became roughly equivalent to the continent of origin.
Since “race” doesn’t have any actual definition apart from us-vs-them, it can be adapted to whatever makes sense right now.
A “white person” can be someone who looks vaguely white. It could be someone where the majority of their ancestors come from a certain part of the world (e.g., excluding Ireland, Eastern Europe, North Africa, … even though they might look indistinguishable from people from e.g. Western Europe). It could be someone where every single one of their ancestors come from a certain part of the world. It could even be just people of a certain socio-economic group. You could even define that “true whiteness” requires a certain political affiliation.
Side note: while the term “race” fell out of use in most of Europe after WW2 and is now being reimported from the US with US meaning, the same is not true for the word “racism” that stayed in use in most European languages and is stilm used with the old European definition.
So to someone from the US, a French man hating all Brits is not a racist, but to someone from Europe, he is a racist.
If you read texts from 1920s Europe, they frequently talk about the “French race”, the “German race” or the “English race”. When the Nazis talked about the “uber race”, they didn’t mean white people, but instead meant German people. They saw the French, the English and so on as inferior races. (Which makes the concept of neonazis from other countries than Germany quite absurd.)
Downton Abbey has at least one instance of this, referring to the “German race” just slightly post WW2. It caught me off guard but now makes sense in light of your comment.
most Puerto Ricans are tri-racial with their genetic makeup skewing towards towards African. the three groups that led us to now are the indigenous Taino who were enslaved by Christopher Columbus, enslaved Africans, and as you mentioned the Spanish. i don’t know a single boricua who identifies as white. i’m sure they’re out there, but they’re just not who i’m knowing. but either way, white supremacy guages whiteness by proximity to power within a color coded society. so like… even if Bad Bunny were 100 of spanish descent it’d be as you say, similar to how the Irish, Italians, Romani, Jews, and Ukrainians aren’t white under the framework of american white supremacy.
it’s also important to know that white supremacy isn’t a uniquely western European or so called united states thing. the all time promoting white supremacy champs are:
- the so called united states
- great Britain
- Germany
- Italy
- Russia
- Israel
- China
- Japan
China promotes White Supremacy?
As someone who has lived in Puerto Rico, and whose mom was born and raised there of immigrants from Mandatory Iraq during WW2, I’d say about 20-30% of people in Puerto Rico consider themselves white.
The CCP promotes Han supremacy; it’s literally encoded in the Chinese constitution that the leader has to be a Han and the deputy has to be of other ethnicities. I learned about that while debating with a supremacist to justify their ideology and the slogan “[insert race/ethnicity/nationality] for [insert any given place]”. That is why lot of white supremacists look to Japan and China, to a certain extent, about keeping “homogeneous” and “native”. But white supremacists conveniently ignore that China is ethnically and linguistically diverse even with 90% Han population making up the Chinese demographic, and the Japanese came to Japan later, with Ainus being there first.
What supremacists really mean to say is that “might makes right. We may have actually come later to the land, but we displaced the original settlers by force. We ain’t gonna let others do the same to us.” I’m kinda glad I am born South East Asian, there is relative harmony among different groups.
Can you actually quote their constitution for me, in Chinese from the direct source please? I don’t believe you.
It’s been a long time and I can’t find the source now, although I distinctly remember reading the part of the constitution while debating with the said supremacist. I admit, either it may have been the party’s constitution or China’s constitution itself.
White supremacy probably not but racial supremacy is 100% true.
the Han demographic exist in proximity to power in a color coded society
Do you have any evidence?
https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv80cchq
here’s a scholarly book examining how Han-centric views and narratives shape China’s government
This is literally US government propaganda. The US government and its agents are not reputable or trustworthy and have material interest in lying about China to further their economic position and military industrial sales. I am not American and I have no reason to trust that Americans are neutral or doing good academics research.
China is 70% or more Han, you can imagine they have a similar issue with their ethnic minorities but far more direct and unhidden.
Your assertion isn’t evidence
Start by familiarizing yourself with this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_minorities_in_China
The Uyghur genocide is widely reported on.
Also I did make a mistake China is 90% Han.There is no freedom of press within China so you’ll not see nearly as detailed coverage with official numbers as you will with other countries.
“White” doesn’t actually mean anything real. Italians and Irish weren’t considered “white” until relatively recently.
The Irish are some of the most fair complexioned duckers I’ve ever seen excluding a Finn and an albino.
Are you sure racists aren’t just suffering from crippling cognitive disability?
Uh, not really. Puerto Ricans are mostly pretty squarely in the Latino category. There’s an entire play and movie about this called West Side Story.
But look at him, he’s whiter than Trump!
They’re not rich enough to count as white, apparently.
These are just the type of kids that never shared their toys growing up.
The super bowl is the most American thing out there. Hispanics are a big part of America. Let’s have a Hispanic focused half time show! Thats never happened before it’ll be cool!
“NO ITS MY WHITE HALF TIME SHOW AND IT NEEDS TO BE WHITE FOR ME”
Actual toddler tantrum behavior.
“For 13 minutes, my TV didn’t have white people in the screen. I am getting oppressed!!!” That idiot
Except Lady Gaga.
Lady Gaga is a cryptid and does not count for category reasons.
Tbh I haven’t watched a single super bowl ever. So i didn’t care to watch the halftime show either. I just looked up how long the show was.
Lady gaga being part of it makes even funnier.
Meanwhile lady gaga was there. And she was singing in english.
Yea but she’s Italian so she’s not white, but hey atleast she’s not Irish.
/s
It’s so stupid and subjective what’s white anyways. Like buddy comes from Spain and people consider them white but oh noes they come from somewhere south of the US or in the case or PR in the US and suddenly not white. Jokes on them were all descendants of rapist colonizers 😂
Like buddy comes from Spain and people consider them white
Noooo, Spain isn’t considered white to some racists. I’m not sure why that consistently comes up. You’re “white” or “one of the good ones” until you’re not to racists. They’re bullies against others and it’s kind of random. If an ICE guy pulls a person from Spain over and they’re speaking Spanish, they’re going in. Racism is stupid af and can’t be predicted. No one is safe.
My grandpa was 100% Spaniard, pale skin and blue eyes.
And? I’ve seen black people with pale skin and light eyes.
Have you ever seen a wall painted white, and told everyone it’s black? Yeah you probably have.
Many Puerto Ricans are white. I’ve known many people over the years who are blonde hair, blue eyes, or green eyed gingers with freckles, but are as Puerto Rican as they come. Ask your local MAGA turd if they can explain why that might be.
My half Cuban half Colombian best friend is white as snow with blonde hair and blue eyes. When she starts speaking fluent Spanish, people look twice.
She actually had to threaten a lawsuit because she was discriminated at work because of being Latina. No one knew until she spoke Spanish and then her manager started treating her differently.
What the hell is to be white? Is it a culture? A skin color? If that is the case I would be white because I have green eyes, I am more than 6ft and I have light skin, but this isn’t to be white actually I am latin American I don’t get it…
Until I was about 16 I never actually realized what “white” means. I considered turks, arabs, chinese / most asia, europe and America (south, central and northern) to be white. Africans and other darker skin colors were just black. I never really paid attention to it and never really understood the color hatred because our “racism” was just hating other cultures of which morale you do not agree with. I guess Eastern EU is just a different kind of game.
“racism” was just hating other cultures of which morale you do not agree with.
racism was just being jealous of other cultures for whatever reason.
Or that, yea.
at least original nazis had specific criteria for who is “aryan”, i think.
Their greatest achievement in life was being born white. That’s all they have, so they cling to it.
Lol mayonnaise culture is what they care about
mayosapien 😂🤣.
I have no idea of their nationalities or whatever, but some of them look pretty white to me? Just tanned.
Is it bad that whenever I see these types of alarmist posts, I respond with “Happy Great Replacement!”?
No, that’s excellent. Please carry on.
I never, ever, get a reply back.
Maybe they were erased and replaced while you were typing. The horror!
Happy Great Replacement
Hey don’t erase or replace ickplant, she posts like 20% of the content on Lemmy lol
So true. Where will people get bat and opossum pics if I’m gone? Lemmy would be bat-less. And that’s sad.
Poor Puerto Ricans. Considered both American and not American at the same time.
Also, does Morgan not consider Ricky Martin as white? He appeared on the show!
Let’s not forget that they are subject to taxes yet lack any representation.
I’m pretty sure I remember a country that was pretty pissed off about that in the past…
They are not subject to Federal taxes (except FICA if you count that but they receive those benefits), which is just one of the reasons statehood polls in Puerto Rico tend to be relatively divided.
If Bad Bunny, a boricua, isn’t white to Morgan, then Ricky Martin, a boricua, wouldn’t be white either
Ricky Martin is also Puerto Rican
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Wait hold up!
Was bad bunny trolling with his very much white suit?
How do you guys interpret the white clothes he was wearing?
For example, do they represent indigenous people’s clothes since most common clothes back then were white or at least colorless? I have a photo of two of my great great grand parents and they were wearing white long pants or shorts.
Or is he saying that there’s a brown person inside white people too?
Or that some of us try to be whiter by our clothing?
There’s a turn of phrase in Spanish. “Vestir de blanco” or “To dress all in white.” Basically, it means “putting on your Sunday best”. The outfit itself was a nod to Puerto Rican sugarcane farmers.
Alright, I imagined it wasn’t just something he picked for fun.
These guys are having more fun that these antiwoke fuckers. I have yet to see an anti woke influencer expressing genuine joy.
with global warming, everyone gets a tan, white only exists in Sweden and norway
Yes, that’s why white people are called Caucasian, because they are named after the Norway-Sweden mountains… wait a minute…
Yeah after seeing pam bondi yesterday i think white people need to be erased way more now. time to just admit white people have royally fucked up. Time for a change.
Suicide pact?
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But I have so many white friends!
