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Brazil is requiring OS level age verification by march 17th, 2026.

New York about to vote on a law that would “require all manufacturers of internet-enabled devices, operating systems, or application stores to conduct commercially reason-able and technically feasible age assurance for users at the point of device activation.”

In order to “incentivize” age verification, The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has announced that they will ignore COPPA violations for software performing age verification.

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    In order to “incentivize” age verification, The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has announced that they will ignore COPPA violations for software performing age verification.

    COPPA prevents companies from collecting data on minors without parental consent.

    Sounds like the Epstein Class is still in charge of the FTC.

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      Feels weird upvoting this comment. I have to remind myself. It’s not you I’m mad at. You’re not the one doing this. You’re just the messanger.

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      The irony knows no bounds, the one half decent reason age verification could exists for is so these companies have no more excuses to ignore coppa because now they can just pretend everyone is a consenting adult.

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        The fact that there will be a signal implying a user is an adult will give all sorts of bad actors plausible deniability, perhaps even legal protection, for exploiting children, who will of course be bypassing it

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      Sounds like the Epstein Class just wants to know where the children are and make it legal to groom them.

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      Yeah, this does not sound like it’s going to make our children any safer.

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    theres no reason to post lunduke. surely we can get our info from literally any other source

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      Honestly? I’ve done a lot of looking over the last few days and he’s literally the only person I’ve found talking about the Brazilian law coming into effect in 12 days. If you have seen any coverage from anyone else, I would be really interested if you could pass a link my way.

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          Already had a read through it this morning. Seems like some few not too bad ideas mixed through with quite a lot of poorly thought out ones.

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    Do not link Lunduke in here. He is, literally, an insane bigot.

    It does not matter how factual or not the particular thing he is reporting on in this particular instance is.

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      I don’t know who that is, but I was a little annoyed to see a thumbnail of a YouTube thumbnail of a screenshot of Twitter. Why not link to the source?

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    Man, they really want to find out who they need to murder, don’t they?

    Because that’s the bottom line. Everybody understands that, right?

    AI is all about replacing as many human jobs with automation as possible, and the Age/ID laws are about tracking down anyone who complains about it.

    This is what we’ve known was coming for decades. It’s finally here.

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      Pretty much. They‘re essentially outlawing privacy so there will be no point in resisting. This is worse than Orwellian.

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      I feel like there is a line coming with hardware and software and that will be the last of it’s type as the move towards subscription based services is forced onto everyone. Its a shame people won’t vote with their wallets. It just means I’ll have my basement crammed with old tech and I’ll go full old man mode and stop keeping up with technological progress.

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        Its a shame people won’t vote with their wallets.

        I’ve been truly stunned these past several days to find out just how many people, not even crazy facebook people but just average users on Lemmy, pay for a ChatGPT subscription.

        They just don’t care.

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          I had a mental health professional suggest using ChatGPT to make a day planner, it fucking floored me. We are not in the majority here and it sucks when that sinks in.

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        Just learn how to harvest the next generation of chips out of their subscription-based devices that don’t have any onboard RAM or GPU, and then integrate it into your existing system.

        You might have to write your own firmware and triple-check for any backdoors that might send your data back to the mothership, but it’s not like you have to cut yourself off entirely as long as you maintain your own self-sufficient system.

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      This will make it more anonymous because verification relies on a token defined in the OS rather than uploading identification.

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    There must be some kind of higher-managed plan on this man. Everything seems to be so sudden and coordinated it just cant be a coincidence. I am NOT giving my ID to use my computer

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      A conspiracy of global elites? Pffft.

      That’s crazytalk.

      It’s not like Peter Thiel ,one time president and current member of the BILDERBERG steering committee , and a bunch of other dudes who worked at PayPal are solely responsible for the trajectory of technology…

      Or like some forum on economics somewhere in the world would coordinate economics, and make some crazy plan with a super unbelievably literal name like agenda 2030 with the dude at the head saying “you’ll own nothing and you will be happy”

      I mean… Crazy. Right.

      The rich should have already been filleted and cooked.

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        Haha imagine if they were all pedofiles, rapists and total degenerates too. haha. HA HA. No way, too crazy right? Pandoras box is open.

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          I know that at a basic psychological level, a person generally must be some form of antisocial/sociopath/psychopath,narcissist to become a billionaire.

          Does becoming a billionaire simply allow for/encourage more extreme levels of behaviors or are they predisposed?

          Is it a rite of passage/secret handshake, or is it just “perks” of being evil?

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    If the speedrun strategy is “introduce a stupid law, wait for everyone to go ‘holy shit none of this can be realistically implemented in this timeframe’, wait for OS vendors to just ban the use of the OSes in the country, watch the local industry as a whole to rally and petition the government to stop the madness before there’s a new dark age, repeal the clearly stupid law”, all before the California law comes to effect - I’ve got to say it’s a bold strategy and we’ll see how it plays out.

    Edit: Also, not going to upvote a Lunduke video - I’m glad he crams every bit of substantial information in the thumbnails so I can just not listen to him at all

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    Consumer tech fucking sucks. We tried you guys. Time to call it quits on the internet and personal computing. Humans ruin everything.

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      Yeah, I’m kind of excited to explore what kind of activities outside has come up with since I was a teenager. Gonna have a lot of free time now that computing won’t be fun anymore.

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    13 days 😂 Tell me you don’t know how software development works or how operating systems are developed without telling me.

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      Remember: it’s up to us to make the cool cyberpunk stuff a reality. The bad stuff is coming no matter what.

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    It’s gonna be fun when people are sitting around a campfire talking about how bad tech ceos, wall street backed corporations, enshittification, corrupt politicians and fascism all led to the extinction of the tech golden age… as they prepare their spears to fight the next wave of machines coming to harvest them.

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    So this is the thing I’ll eventually end up in jail for bypassing. I coul’ve sworn it would be drugs.

    Oh well.

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    Thanks for sharing these news with us yeah I’m not going back to Ubuntu after this (not it’s a great OS to begin with) but before that we had to deal with snaps bogging up the entire system with updates galore anyway hopefully we can learn this lesson about not using mainstream software to control our data

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    Pretty soon you’ll be hearing folks say things like “why are you worried if you don’t have anything to hide” as if personal privacy has no value whatsoever. It’s a slippery slope!!!

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        It is a slippery slope, we just happen to have already slid down it most of the way and are imminently about to be falling off that cliff at the end of it…

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      @TriplePlaid@wetshav.ing @qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de @technology@lemmy.world

      For me, a Brazilian, there’s something I must hide if I want to be employable: my occultist practices, my religion. I’m a worshiper of Lilith, surrounded by mostly Christian people. I literally heard “faux-jokes” (when people want to condemn someone, but wrapping the condemnation as a joke) tying my belief to “ending up in hell”.

      Even though my legal name isn’t difficult to find through my pseudonym, you can imagine why I use a pseudonym to openly express my religion. And once digital activity is tied to my CPF (Brazilian citizen/legal identity), and I’m definitely not buying the “anonymized checking” arguments, suddenly potential employers and buyers/merchants will know I “worship the devil” and will have yet another reason to refuse hiring me or buying/selling things from/to me.

      Also, some of Lilith imagery and stories involve content which is sensitive, subjected to those very “age check” laws, further making it necessary for me to comply to “age checks” whenever I want to read or write, observe or do drawings about the fundamental deity I worship.

      But according to certain people, “having something to hide = must be a criminal!!!”. Because they’re likely followers of some mainstream religion which is not socially persecuted, or religion isn’t something significant in their lives.

      Seriously. I’m truly tired of this world.

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        Thank you for telling you story. I’m sorry that you are in the position you are in where you can’t freely be yourself around others.

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        Damn, and meanwhile I literally have a shirt that’s in a pattern of an inverted cross that reads “Lucifer died for our sins” that I pull out to make the religious cross the road from me.

        I say fuck it and make them normalize to a world that doesnt include their bubble but I also have bad self preservation.

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          @Krauerking@lemy.lol @technology@lemmy.world

          Wow, LOVED the shirt! 🖤 Ágios Lux ferre!

          I, too, do use a similar t-shirt, whose print I designed myself tries to depict Lilith. From afar, the print isn’t that explicit, though: to the average bystander, it’s depicting a pale woman with glowing red eyes, dark red lips, straight long dark red hair and feathery dark red wings (certainly mistaken by others as angelical), holding a red rose flower. Even the text (“Rebele-se pela”, Portuguese for “Rebel yourself for” at the top; “Liberdade”, “Freedom/Liberty”, at the bottom), which is stylized (gothic font), is too small to be read from afar. The only tell is the mirrored ⯝ (the Venus/Feminine symbol but the circle is a waxing Moon; in my art, it’s actually a waning Moon for Her Crone/Reaperess aspect) tattooed on Her left cheek, and the dark wings.

          The problem is how the country I was born into is utterly christian; most employers and merchants are christian, especially in small towns (one of which I reside in), which are known for “quermesses” (annual church fairs). And when the majority of potential employers, especially the local ones, are utterly christian, saying out loud about professing a different religion risks one’s own economic and social existence.

          For example, a Mãe de Santo (leadress of a terreiro, which is the Afro-Brazilian sacred place of gathering) was refused an Uber car ride after the driver reprimanded her for her clothing typical of Afro-Brazilian, then she sued the driver for religious intolerance, but the judge denied her request and ruled favorable for the driver, inverting the entire situation and arguing “it was the Mãe de Santo who was religiously intolerant with the christian driver”; the judge was reported for being religiously intolerant (news articles in Portuguese), but the damage is already done).

          In another example, a statue representing Lucifer/Baphomet/Exú from a Luciferian-Quimbanda temple was seized by a judicial decision after local christians became terrified of it, and the statue is still seized for more than a year.

          Those became headlines, but there’s a plethora of religious intolerance going unnoticed, social ostracism caused by simply having another faith other than christianity; it even risks body integrity (e.g. gangs such as Primeiro Comando da Capital torturing and/or murdering practitioners of Afro-Brazilian faiths).

          This is the persecution me and many others are fated to face as soon as age checks, tying online activity (where I don’t measure my words to praise Mother) to the legal ID, end up (inevitably) leaked (e.g. Discord age check DB leaked just days after implementing age checks).

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            Polish Roman Catholic background. Not exactly tolerant either and now I live in a place that famously is Mennonite and Amish.

            That is a far more creative shirt than mine, wearing your own style is always incredible. However…

            If they will make you suffer why not suffer on your own terms for a cause you think worth it? Why wait to be starved by someone’s hand other than your own?

            I mean I get being scared of it and don’t make it a habit to hurt yourself needlessly. But I would rather live a life being myself as much as I can and be good to those who deserve it and let the weirdos who have a problem with it suffer my existence rather than the other way around. They don’t wish for my existence? To bad they can suffer, because I exist.
            But I said I have bad self preservation skills, we all can’t make it out of this world alive, and I have no intention of cheating the game.

            I wish you safety and health though. Its not good to feel at the whims of others.

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              @Krauerking@lemy.lol @technology@lemmy.world

              Polish Roman Catholic background. Not exactly tolerant either and now I live in a place that famously is Mennonite and Amish.

              Oh… I’ve heard about the Amish… So it’s practically a similar situation over there.

              If they will make you suffer why not suffer on your own terms for a cause you think worth it? Why wait to be starved by someone’s hand other than your own?

              Yeah, you’re right. There’s a part of me who thinks this way, too. I guess this whole age check thing will inevitably push me in this regard.

              I wish you safety and health though.

              Thanks! Wish you the same.

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      You close the door when you poop and you don’t broadcast your WhatsApp messages on time square.