• blunderworld@lemmy.ca
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    14 days ago

    For a complete stranger, you seem to think you’ve got me all figured out. While we’re throwing accusations around, you come across as really defensive and needlessly confrontational.

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            14 days ago

            Women aren’t allowed to make jokes now?

            Stripping context from statements is real useful in twisting them to whatever you want them to mean.

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                14 days ago

                Yeah I posted “I’m also lying in bed thinking about that woman” on a meme. That statement is only talking about my internal thoughts and doesn’t saying anything about the woman or what I think she should look like or change to appease what I want.

                Go ahead. Go digging.

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            Yeah, the first comment I’m responding to someone comparing women’s tits to cow’s milk glands. Literally dehumanizing women with large breasts.

            The second comment is my own personal thoughts on appreciating that fictional woman in the meme. It’s not comparing her to anything or saying that she would be more attractive if she did XYZ or that I like her better a certain way.

            You can’t comprehend the difference between the two?

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              14 days ago

              When someone else shares their thoughts on a woman, they’re fucked up and evil. When I do it, I’m just expressing my opinion.

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                “I think she’s attractive” or “I don’t personally think she’s attractive” = okay “She looks like a fat cow” = not okay

                I don’t personally believe this is gender-specific, or subscribe to the idea that women are allowed to thirst over women publicly and men aren’t, but we ought to all be on the same page that it’s not okay to compare a woman to a cow, and so therefore no hypocrisy occurred. Just consider time and place, and be respectful, and it’s fine.

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                14 days ago

                Sharing that you prefer the woman in the image without makeup is different than saying you find her attractive.

                Do you understand the difference?

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                  14 days ago

                  One makes femcels mad and the other also makes them mad but in a different way

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          14 days ago

          You are. Jeremy is objectifying this woman and so are you. It’s not about what is more attractive to men.

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            Part of the premise of the original post is about what is more attractive to men, and expressing a preference against makeup is a logically valid way to contradict its argument (while also being a faux pas that context does not defend against). The whole thing is obvious bait and you’re both falling for it.

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              Haven’t picked up that I’ve got a habit of calling out these kinds of faux pas? I’m aware of what I’m doing. I don’t have much patience for men thinking they’re better than others for making the same kind of objectifying statements about women.

              This isn’t about what men want or what makes their dicks hard.

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                14 days ago

                Well IMO that means this Twitter asshole’s attempt at trolling is a success, which is a shame

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                    14 days ago

                    What I mean by trolling here is, deliberately inciting other people to have the desired argument amongst themselves. OOP isn’t affected or aware of anything we say, it’s completely one-sided.

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                from the outside looking in, it very much seems like you think YOURE the one better than others. Youre taking the velma LARP way too seriously at this point, and youre giving ‘netflix wokescold velma’ and not ‘cool 60s velma’, so its not even a fun larp youre doing either

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                  I guess a few too many times finding posts where y’all are pushing that 14 year olds can consent to sex and that men should be allowed to murder their wives if they cheat and joking about raping women has turned me real sour on these kinds of comments.

                  I’m not LARPing. I’m astonished at how some of you act. Or worse, how some of you see these comments and don’t say anything at all.

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                14 days ago

                Oh, for sure, doing your hair and makeup has absolutely nothing to do with trying to make yourself more attractive to men when you are a straight woman. Very valuable insight, thanks

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                  13 days ago

                  Sorry for joining a heated conversation, but what about lesbians, women in relationships, aroace women, etc.? They still do their hair and makeup.

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                    12 days ago

                    I specified a straight woman. As far as women in relationships, etc, as a man, I’ve noticed people of all sorts being MUCH nicer to me when I was ideal weight vs. overweight. So it actually has advantages to be attractive even if you’re not actually trying to attract people. You get treated better in many situations.