• Nouvellalia@lemmy.world
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    2 天前

    We already have this with Felons. They are a miniscule percent of the population though

    Convicted felons make up almost 8% of the voting age population. That is not a “minuscule” percent. It’s enough to have changed 2/3 of all presidential elections.

    so it cannot be abused to win an election

    It is certainly actively being used to suppress Democrat power in general, and Black voting power specifically.

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      2 天前

      You are wildly wrong.

      1.1% of the population cannot vote due to felony conviction.

      And those people are distributed across the political spectrum just like any other demographic.

      If you’re going to quote bullshit stats, at least post a link to some fringe blog to back it up sort of

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        2 天前

        You are too ignorant to be that smug.

        Or is it just racism? Who doesn’t know that Black people are wildly overrepresented in the prison population? Or that Black people overwhelmingly vote Democrat? Those are really basic facts.

        The 1.1% you quote, specifically only refers to the non Black population. It’s 5%-10% of the Black population. Which ends up being 2% of the total population of the country. Though it varies wildly from state to state. In some states it is as high as 6% of the total population.

        That is by no means insignificant.

        https://www.sentencingproject.org/reports/locked-out-2024-four-million-denied-voting-rights-due-to-a-felony-conviction//

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          2 天前

          I got my numbers from the exact same source. Your own link contradicts you. 4 million is not 2% of the US pop. 4 million is 1.1% of the population.

          I never said they were split 50/50. I said they were distributed.

          Meaning it’s not “four million votes for Democrats”

          And fuck you for assuming my ethics. I think the fact that felons can’t vote is absolutely immoral. Nobody should be deprived of their vote.

          But I don’t lie about statistics.

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            1 天前

            In 2024, an estimated 4 million Americans, representing 1.7% of the voting-age population, will be ineligible to vote.

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              23 小时前

              2024

              I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure it’s 2026 now and our population is growing, not shrinking

              And that 4m number is down from their 2022 report (4.4m), so you can’t tell me the felon population has grown with the US population

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                21 小时前

                So you just made up a number that felt good to you, but demanded hard sources from me? I think you have done a fine job of expressing the validity of yourself as a source. Thank you.

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                  20 小时前

                  Bruh 1.1% is a lot closer to 1.7% than the literally 5% value originally commented above. Sue me for taking the latest available felon numbers and dividing by current US population

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                    18 小时前

                    You are having a reading comprehension and retention issue, and you have a lack of understanding for how statistics work.