I am making my way through Yakuza series right now and while playing 5 I realized that I am not that invested into the game’s combat, so I turned it to easy and that just streamlined the combat so much for me. I would recommend to maybe try Yakuza 0 on normal at first and then just switch it to easy if you feel like the gameplay might be dragging on.

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      That’s a good example. You simply can’t grasp optimal choices or know possible events and outcomes before going through it a great deal of times, and it’s likely that you’ll get killed too fast to experience much if you start on normal. You definitely end up switching to normal as you improve, learn, and unlock, but it really benefits and smoothens the learning curve to start easier.

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      This is such a good answer. I remember playing it on easy back in the day and the final boss still kicked my ass.

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        I remember having some really solid runs, easily beating every enemy I encountered… and then not even being able to make a dent on the final boss

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          I spend the entire game prepping for the boss. Just because I can ohko every other ship the moment I land doesn’t mean I can touch the beast. I’ve done the last sector without taking a hit just to never even get past the shields in phase 1

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            I think that’s my main complaint with the game. Once you find a way to beat the boss, you just go for that build every time. It’s so punishing and the path to get there is so long, that it’s a massive disincentive to try new things.

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            Yep, that’s what everyone realises after getting stomped a few times!

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      Into the Breach too, it’s just a less brutal way to learn how to play

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      And once the game has become a breeze, with 100% of your runs being a success, install the Captain’s Edition mod and suddenly, it’s a pleasantly challenging title again. The add-on that turns it into an endless game in particular is so good, I spent dozens of hours playing it.

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        Shoutout to Twinge’s Balance Mod. It’s actively maintained, and it makes the game more interesting by encouraging use of unpopular weapons and systems

        Captain’s is great too, but it can be overwhelming.

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      The difficult steps in FTL are no joke. I was having no difficulty clearing on easy and was just trying to unlock all the ships. Once I did I switched to normal and had to restart 3 times before getting out of the first sector.

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      I wonder what game stories benefit from a bit of challenge.

      Like, I feel like The Last of Us benefits from a little bit of challenge to drive home the anxiety and cleverness of the characters.

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    Dwarf Fortress! Turn off attacks and sieges and just let your dwarves die by your own incompetence instead

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      Usually the issue isn’t my incompetence, people just get too drunk in the tavern and decide to kill each other. FUN.

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      I just wall myself up inside with a gate and wait out the sieges. I also place two dogs outside the main entrance to catch kidnappers. Has the same effect without needing to mod the game or alter the settings.

      Of course once I can build ballastas or make use of water/lava, I can set up winding paths with Dwarven Shotguns (basically using water pressure and garbage I can fire minecarts full of crap at high speeds) to obliterate trespassers.

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    I’m taking this as an opportunity to illuminate issues with particular games, since… well, play on easy if you wanna, naturally. So, for my recommendation: If you don’t use the mod that makes all weapons very dangerous, Mass Effect Andromeda. Without a mod to speed it up a lot, every fight becomes ages of tedium. There’s one weapon that can be made any good and even that doesn’t make fights bearable. You’re basically sitting for like ten minutes at a time hosing down foes with off-brand Super Soakers until they get frustrated and leave. It’s quite bad. Just play it on easy. Not just easy, the easiest easy. Whatever the lowest difficulty is, pick that one. There’s just no point in anything higher unless you’ve got infinite patience. And ammo. Bleeegh.

    So, generally I play things on easier difficulties when I feel like anything higher will get tedious rather than interesting. The Mass Effect trilogy, I play on the maximum difficulty because that adds a bunch of mechanics that give me more to work around. Fighting armoured enemies should be done differently from fights against shielded enemies, that sort of thing. Enemies become more dangerous when they’re not shut down so there’s that encouragement to get them figured out before they bring out the scary attacks. Some games just increase health amounts, which… okay, just shoot them more? 😴 Boring.

    tl;dr: Games like Mass Effect Andromeda where difficulty settings only increase tedium. Am never gonna want to crank up the tedium setting.

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      off-brand Super Soakers until they get frustrated

      I’m now imagining the leaders of the Andromeda Initiative shopping for guns at the Citadel branch of Temu, which is Commander Shepherd’s least favorite store.

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    Three games came to mind just now, for slightly different reasons.

    Similarly to others, just for feeling good: Earth Defense Force (whichever release, really). While it’s great to have a challenge in the missions, getting through the game, finding a good mission to farm weapons on, then using those fun weapons to destroy horses of insects and aliens is just so fun. And some missions can feel a bit BS with the weapons you might have available normally.

    I would also actually say Baldur’s Gate 3. I know a lot of people enjoy the tactical side of things, but my opinion is that the DnD 5e ruleset kinda just sucks for a video game. I play it as a TTRPG, it’s fine. But I found rolling badly in something my character’s meant to be good at just so frustrating. This let me actually explore the story and world my own way, which was way more fun to me than restarting combat because I got unlucky.

    That one might be controversial, but I was also speed running completion because I wanted to know conclude the story and see the world, but something about the game just didn’t click for me.

    And finally, because I think it’s a fantastic game that deserves attention (with the best soundtrack I’ve heard in a while): Rabbit and Steel. It’s a brutally hard roguelike bullet hell that’s based on dungeon raid boss mechanics from FFXIV (which I haven’t played, but that’s what everyone says). The difficulty will make you want to not play it, and for me stuff only really clicked once I unlocked my penultimate class. I can now heat Hard fairly consistently, but it has taken a lot of runs to get there. No shame in admitting that those started from Cute and Normal and involved me grinding out all the unlocks by charging through Cute difficulty.

    So really, the summary of this far too long reply is: just lower the difficulty when it’s frustrating or keeping you too much from getting to the fun stuff. You can always try again on a higher difficulty later.

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      I played Bg3 on easy, no shame, but I think I missed out on secondary class. I think that’s not available on easy.

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        BG3 had too much truly random BS I couldn’t account for to justify anything other than easy or normal. Stuff like companions switching to real time from turn based and walking into fights from a stealthy position or not avoiding traps that have been spotted. It’s a fun game but it’s seriously to janky for me to avoid on difficult challenges. If I fuck up, that’s on me, but when my planning is right and the game fucks me over by randomly making a companion walk towards me and lose stealth then why would I want to try to experience a good challenge? It’s just not worth it.

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    Personally, I am playing Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age 2 on easy. They come from an era where if you aren’t suffering through it then you must really suck. Personally, I don’t have time to fight the same boss for an hour only to die when he gets down to the last 5% and start over again, I only get a few hours after work to game. However, the story is honestly pretty good, and I recommend them - if you play on easy.

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    NieR Automata, for basically the same reasons. Hard mode is filled with instakills everywhere and is really just a damage multiplier, so you have to be the right kind of person for that. If you’re not, Normal is probably already fairly easy because of all the auto-heals, but the pacing can be a bit slow for something where most enemies aren’t dangerous. Might as well play Easy and play for the story.

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      I love the combat in the game. I think I played it on normal. I wouldn’t recommend anything easier. I feel like everything would die too easily.

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    Uncharted on console/with a controller. Unless you really love sitting behind knee-high-cover™ I highly recommend playing them on easy and like an older Tomb Raider game. Much more fun that way.

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      Let’s be real: I doubt many people are playing the Uncharted games for the gameplay. These titles are doing the bare minimum to meet AAA action-adventure standards with some technical flourishes here and there, but that’s about it. You get by the numbers cover shooting, by the numbers occasional easy stealth, by the numbers climbing, by the numbers (and by that I mean really small numbers) puzzle solving, etc. The appeal lies in the spectacle, the artistry, the technical excellence by the standards of the platforms they are on, experiencing what are essentially slightly interactive Hollywood adventure movies that manage to keep the player hooked with expert pacing and characters that are straddling the line between psychopathy and charm just right.

      One might also argue that it’s more fun watching footage of these games than actually playing them. The best example of this is the car chase sequence in Uncharted 4, which looked amazing when I first watched it years before being able to play it, but once I got to actually experience it first hand, this was the moment when I dropped the difficulty down, because it was remarkably (and surprisingly) frustrating and irritating to play. Don’t get me wrong, it’s an astonishing technical achievement, but not one second of playing it was fun, at least in my opinion.

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    Project Zomboid. That’s the most recent game I can think of where I reduced the difficulty (and that’s coming from someone that has nearly 400 hours into Elden Ring). It’s not that the game is tougher than ER or anything like that. It has a ton of cool mechanics and detail that are really enjoyable if you’re into zombie survival games, but the zombies can really swarm you in that game and you won’t live long.

    It also has sandbox mode where there’s no zombies and you can focus on farming, building, etc.

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    I would recommend Kingdoms of Amalur: Re-Reckoning. The normal mode is already stupid easy, so you feel like a god on easy mode.

    It’s a fantasy setting with a ton of story and lore, so if you don’t care about that it may not be for you.

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      Does the writing ever get good? I played it for probably six or eight hours, which isn’t a lot in a game like this, but it and the world building felt painfully generic and bland, to the point of being increasingly off-putting the longer I played the game.

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        It’s pretty generic overall, but some parts of the worldbuilding are better than others. It fits together in fun ways, and the later stuff is better, but most of the early-game stuff is bland. Just FYI - I never beat it, but I played about 40 hours in 2015 and right now I’m about 10 hours into a replay.

        I don’t know if it’s just because of the time since I’ve last played, but Re-Reckoning has felt like a lot more of a chore to play than the original. I don’t remember absolutely loving the original, though; it was always pretty mid, I just thought it was charming.

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        I’ve beaten the original and the rerelease several times. it’s pretty generic but the combat animations are cool enough to give it a go when I’m bored. I usually play it on the hardest difficulty but the bow charged spread attack works like a shotgun so it’s very easy to stunlock enemies.

        It’s one of those games where you can overpower enemies quite easily if you prepare, I would not play it on easy though, if the story is bland and the combat is braindead, what’s the point of the game?

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      I like this answer, sometimes I just want to feel like a god in an rpg, but most of the time enemies scale with you in most games

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    I think easy game modes take away what a great game makes a great game. I’m not sure if I can explain this with words, but if you are going to play on easy, then it means you don’t want to play. At that point, its probably not a game for you. I’m talking across all kind of genres and type of games. However, if a game is unfair or badly designed, that is the moment when I would recommend using easy mode. And it depends on how the difficulty scaling is implemented. Some easy modes are really dumb and take away the core principles of the game, while others are very intelligently realized.

    Your example is a great example of what I meant by that. You are not interested into the combat, therefore made it easy so it does not get in your way. You didn’t turn it down because its unfair. What happens is, you are actively playing a game, which you don’t want to. I don’t know what exactly scales in that game, so maybe its not a bad easy mode at all, but can’t judge the game.

    I’m currently playing Metal Gear Solid 5 for the first time (just played a few hours on launch and now I’m back to it) on normal difficulty. The game can be brutal at times and there were multiple moments when I almost quit the game. Yet I did not turn easy mode, and now I’m happy that I overcome the challenge naturally. And that’s what I mean. I you turn the game to easy mode, then you get into these habits of not solving the challenges.

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      Or maybe they just don’t have fast reflexes so easy is… easier. My wife almost never plays on normal because she can’t.

      If she plays on normal, she will never finish the game and be so frustrated that it will cause her not to enjoy her evening. She works a lot and needs to de-stress when she gets home, so playing on easy is the best way for her.

      Stop judging people. Just play your game and enjoy it.

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          If the opinion is “playing on easy means you don’t actually want to play,” I’m gonna give it the criticism it deserves.

          Let me have my opinion. Why even leave your comment if you are pro-opinions?

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            I’m just expressing my opinion and give recommendations. Do what you want, its your experience that is ruined, not mine. Geez people need to calm down, its a discussion. No need to get personally attacked.

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              Do what you want, its your experience that is ruined, not mine.

              The fact that you believe there’s a single way to play a game is so fucking hilarious when stuff like speed-running and challenges exist. Oh well. Enjoy your purist bullshit.

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                We weren’t talking about speed-running or challenges. And I made clear its not the only way to play a game, but for people who don’t want to play the game as intended. Its a totally different and degraded experience, because the game is designed in a certain way. Therefore I do not recommend using easy mode… unless (and I made that clear before too) game is unfair or badly designed or if you don’t want to play the game anyway, and just enjoy cut scenes.

                I’m not attacking you or judging you, I try to protect the worse experience for from you and encourage to actually learn to play the game. If you don’t wan to play the game like that, then maybe easy mode is for you. Or play another game. It’s not my choice its yours, I don’t take your choice away!

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                  Ah so speedrunning and challenges, which are arguably harder, is fine? Speedrunning and exploiting glitches A-OK? But easy mode because I’m 44 and don’t react like I did at 19, that’s ruining the experience? Doesn’t make sense.

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      I think easy game modes take away what a great game makes a great game.

      But a lot of people are coming to gaming from traditional media where there is no interaction. A lot of those people like the narratives in games, but don’t love beating a challenge. A lot of those people are tired from long days at work and do not get joy from eking out a win. To them, it feels like a chore, and they didn’t get into this to do chores. They got into it to get away from the stress of the world.

      (EDIT: Forgot to mention, this is also why Let’s Play youtubes are popular. I know a guy who doesn’t game at all but has watched full playthroughs of things like Firewatch.)

      If you get enjoyment from great game mechanics, more power to you. However, that doesn’t mean those game mechanics are less impactful in story driven games where the gaming is “easier.”

      My partner didn’t play games at all until those old Walking Dead games by Telltale came out. They were like a TV show, and she started playing them… because it was like “playing” one of her favorite shows at the time. I literally chose them to introduce her to gaming because it was more like a TV show than a game.

      She recently finished Baldur’s Gate 3 on normal and its her favorite game now. So games with easy difficulty levels can also help people who have never gamed before be able to get into it and eventually love the more difficult challenge.

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        But a lot of people are coming to gaming from traditional media where there is no interaction. A lot of those people like the narratives in games, but don’t love beating a challenge. A lot of those people are tired from long days at work and do not get joy from eking out a win. To them, it feels like a chore, and they didn’t get into this to do chores. They got into it to get away from the stress of the world.

        That’s exactly what I’m saying. People like you describe don’t want to play the game. There is nothing wrong with that, i just explained when easy mode makes sense or when I recommend it. In this case, people who don’t want to play the game (as intended), can use easy mode.

        If you get enjoyment from great game mechanics, more power to you. However, that doesn’t mean those game mechanics are less impactful in story driven games where the gaming is “easier.”

        As I said, it depends on the implementation of an easy mode. Some easy modes are bad and ruin the actual gaming experience. In some other cases its actually very well thought out and the game mechanics are supportive in such an easy mode.

        In general a situation like with your partner to introduce into gaming is a special case. There are lot of games designed to be easy or adaptive. But the OP here isn’t new to gaming, its a different situation. I was looking from a perspective who plays games.

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          People like you describe don’t want to play the game

          I think this is part of the problem I have.

          Are they still pressing buttons and making input? Yes.

          Thus, they’re still playing the game.

          If you want to sound less judgmental, stop saying they’re not “playing” it or that “they don’t want to play it” just because they’re not “playing it the way I think is right.”

          If you really think its okay, accept that when they are still pressing buttons and interacting with the game, they are still functionally playing the game. Not playing the game is watching a Let’s Play.

          It’s a pointless distinction rooted in treating people who want an easy mode as “lesser” because “they don’t want to actually play the game.” Sorry, sick of hearing it worded this way.

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      Playing on easy doesn’t mean you don’t want to play. Or at least, that’s not my personal experience when I put games on easy, which is not always.

      I’ll throw out two examples. Age of Empires 2. I suck ass at real time strategy, so I put the bots on easiest. What this gives me is the experience and feeling of building up my faction, gathering resources, making upgrades, feeling later like those upgrades were smart (which I wouldn’t get on harder difficulties as my actual poor choices would backfire and punish me), and then I get to conquer my enemies with my large army.

      I still got to build something up from nothing, create a satisfying army, utilize what I made to conquer. I got something out of it that I wouldn’t have if I played on normal. I would’ve struggled and likely lost. I might’ve just as likely actually risen above the challenge and came away with a more satisfying, but hard fought win, but I have challenging and hard fought wins at work every day. I don’t need that in a genre I’m only a tourist in at home. I have Monster Hunter for that.

      I put Gundam Breaker 4 on easy, the combat is satisfying on a surface level, but too precise and finicky as the challenge rises. I enjoy the combat still, on a smaller scale, but I moreso enjoy acquiring gear and making a Gundam that looks a certain way. The things I enjoy more about the game are facilitated by easier combat, I can get to those parts more easily, but still enjoy the combat.

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      I think there’s something to be said about completing some games on yard difficulties, and Fire Emblem falls in that category. The category is puzzle games that require insane tactical strategy.

      A lot of unit based RPG’s function this way, and they do a really good job a lot of the time. But that is just one way to play the game, and quite frankly grinding through levels to “properly” beat a certain difficulty is certainly a better option for the majority of players.

      There is something unique about finally completing a damning level, but it’s only something that is there if the player has the drive to get that fulfillment.

      I wouldn’t say you have big dum, more likely you just value your time and the engagement of the game is more rewarding on lower difficulty, due to the element that is driving you to play the game. That is to say, it’s aspects of the gameplay and the story that keeps you coming back, not necessarily the insane strategic plays needed to beat a hard level.

      Both are completely valid forms of gameplay, the hardest difficulty is often min-maxxed and tends to account for a small section of players, and is probably included partly for replayability.

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      Those games have a tough start, but if you can get over the initial hump then you can do pretty well in later level. That is until the final boss where shit hits the fan again.

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    The Ascent.

    Bit of diablo, bit of Borderlands; good game but lacks variety and also has some insane jumps in the difficulty. Playing on Normal is hard enough with no extra payout. Hard is impossible unless you are absolutely perfect in execution. Might as well put it on Easy and just have fun endlessly blasting punks, mutants and machines because when you start dying in the first 2 seconds of every boss fight, it stops being fun.

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      There are a lot of indie games that suffer from this imo. Might be because they don’t have enough testers.

      • Yeah. It’s a bit amateurish, but it’s a cheap game too. They clearly spent a lot more time on the writing and visuals but really my only heavy criticism is that there isn’t enough variety in how you play. There’s basically just 1 build and 1 set of viable weapons. But if you just wanna turn your brain off and blow things up, it’s an awesome game.

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    This might be a weird one as the game is often blamed for not having difficulty settings, but Elden Ring. While it doesn’t have a straight up setting that says easy, there’s a lot of ways to make the game easier.

    I really hate how Fromsoft put the “Prepare to Die” tagline onto Dark Souls when it came to PC and seems to develop into more bullshitty scenarios that kill you in unpredictable ways. Elden Ring has for example a lot of enemies that hold their attack for unintuitively long just to catch you off guard and punish you when you roll on the intuitive timing.

    The community is to blame as well for the bad reputation of the games with people making fun of others using big shields and summons to beat the game. And herein lie the difficulty options of Elden Ring:

    • Using greatshields makes a lot of the game a lot easier
    • Using spirit ashes makes places that allow them a lot easier (as opposed to player and npc summons they don’t affect the enemies health pool)
    • Using magic allows you to attack with little risk to yourself

    You can also summon other players but i don’t know if that makes the game easier: As noted above it raised the enemies HP so everyone has to do their part to succeed but if you are a caster you can mostly sit back and blast enemies from afar while your summons tank. Using player summons also opens your world up for invasions and while the invader usually is in a 1v3 situation they also usually know what they are doing and how to deal with such situations.

    If you’re still stuck at a boss, just go somewhere else and explore. The game is designed to teach you that lesson with the first actual boss but a lot of people take it as the game just being hard.

    All of this is to say: it is okay to use the games integrated mechanics that make it easy. It doesn’t make you less of a gamer. Elden Ring has such a beautifully crafted world and if you’re looking very interesting lore and it’s a shame that seemingly all people talk about is the difficulty. It is actually the easiest Fromsoft title if you want it to be as it gives you a lot more and more powerful tools than the other games.

    (Also if you see a chonky looking gal in black full body armour called Sieglinde, summon me. I have great heals, a big chonky sword and love helping people 😘)