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America was never good. It was always a fucked up country. It just got even more fucked up in the last 10 years.
The willingness to forgive Brexit in this meme is kinda undercutting your conviction
Brexit was more like friends drifting apart. While the US is your friend fucking your girlfriend, slashing your tires, stabbing you and then demanding you pay him.
Brexit was arguably worse because the UK voted specifically to say fuck you we are not a part of your club, whereas the US voters moronically didn’t understand civics yet again and let this moron back into power who then used foreign policy tools to corruptly enrich himself and also piss off all our friends. And when US voters had a chance to vote on how the moron was doing they unequivocally repudiated him harder than any party’s been repudiated in the last 50 years.
What they will be weary of, and totally should be, is that they are just one election shy of another slimebag grifter who’s willing to do the same again. I think these fences are somewhat mendable considering it’s not our people’s animosity toward them, it’s oligarchs that are the problem. And oh by the way there is a huge problem with the EXACT same kind of voters and oligarchs and social media disinformation in every single one of those countries as well. You will need our help just like we needed yours to stand up to this shit. Our people share the same values still, they just need to be reminded of how absolutely destructive and empty fascism is as a philosophy and form of government.
We all need to fix this cost of living crisis among young people because it will only get worse as climate change will create a huge refugee migration and far right extremism will crash on democracies like waves on a beach until it gets sorted out and the rich people actually have to start paying taxes and can’t just buy elections, politicians, and sock puppets online. Or it doesn’t get sorted out and we will live in some kind of cyberpunk distopia resembling Snowcrash, which is the oligrachs’ favorite book and what they based the networked state on.
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The US voted trump once, to “own the libs”. Then when they saw he was actually serious, they voted the other guy. Only to completely forget about it once again and vote the shitbag once again. Even after having seen what trump was, they voted for him again.
The only reason this time was different is because trump invaded Iran and now the climate-change-hating people would have to pay a few pennies lore to fill their tanks. Even though gas is still cheaper in the US than it was in Europe before the Iran invasion.
Let me reiterate. The only reason the US voted against trump is because he drove up fuel prices. Not the dehumanization of immigrants and its own citizens (he already did that first term). Not the loving foreign dictators. Not making crime legal. The thing that brought him down was oil prices.
“But he most Americans didn’t vote for him!” Most British didn’t either for Brexit. Not voting against someone is basically telling the world that that someone is good enough for you.
“But misinformation! The US people were just uninformed and dumb!” There was a lot of misinformation surrounding Brexit too.
The difference is that Brexit was a single vote, and afterwards a lot of people said “this is not the Brexit I voted for”. Whereas in the US it is “why is trump hurting me? I voted for him 3 times!”.
Another big difference is that Brexit is just the UK exiting the EU. Trump, however, initiated a trade war and is a puppet of our main aggressor (Russia). It also destabilized the entire world with its stupid wars. And sent fuel prices through the roof for everyone. Knowing full well the Europe produces very little oil on its own and is already struggling after cutting trade with Russia.
No. Brexit was not worse than trump.
Let me reiterate. The only reason the US voted against trump is because he drove up fuel prices. Not the dehumanization of immigrants and its own citizens (he already did that first term). Not the loving foreign dictators. Not making crime legal. The thing that brought him down was oil prices.<
Let me stop you right there. The hispanic flip in Texas is almost entirely because ice are disappearing people into black sites at an alarming rate. It’s not just gas prices. It’s a lot of things all at once.
Both Brexit and Trump happened because of idiot conservatives being fooled into going against their interest by oligarchs.
For that they are the same.
Canada should carry on building a stronger relationship with the EU and should become a member. You never know, the racist neo-Nazi dumbshit Red Oblast voters, to their south, might strike again.
To be fair, the US should as well. But this time as a partner and not as a demanding child thinking they run the world. As great as it is for the world to grow stronger without the US, it would also be great for the US to be an equal partner as well.
But it’s cool if you don’t want to allow us back into the group just yet. We need to have learned our lesson before we can be an actual partner.
I truly believe the only way back into the good graces of our former allies at this point is to finish the civil war properly. Deleting every last conservative from our country is truly the only way to ever be thought of as trustworthy again. And it’s really just a first step.
Conservatives are onboard with finishing civil war. They’ve been demanding we finish the war since we showed them mercy in 1865. Conservatives despise mercy. Mercy is empathy and empathy is woke. We stopped Sherman before he was done and now we need to complete the job.
As long as conservatives continue to live, they will do everything to bring us back into fascism. Our former allies understand this and should never trust us again as long as conservatives are permitted to continue existing here. They should exclude us from everything until we rid our house completely of the infestation. The world is not safe as long as conservatives continue to live here.
Let the conservatives start the war first as they are wont to do, geezus. There was a time when calling for genocide was frowned upon.
Most of the conservatives I know are not inherently hateful or evil (some of them are), they just live in alternate universe of information. The United States effectively insulates its citizens from the consequences of the government’s actions the vast majority of the time, while keeping existence in the country so competitive and cutthroat that people don’t have energy to look around beyond the information/ media really available to them. So they fundamentally don’t understand the macro effects of the policies their pastors and community tell them to support, neither in their own lives nor abroad.
Honestly, that has been the brilliance of Iran in this circumstance. And as an environmentalist, I’m glad for how painful the gas prices have been for everyone, and I hope it continues. It cuts through all the ideology and puts their noses in their shit piles so that they have to see it.
Don’t the midterms not even take effect till Jan? Current admin still has a few months to fuck shit up then Jan 6 again
They aren’t going to remove tariffs.
Jeffries won’t even allow it to be brought up in the House. We have a conservative infestation in the Dem party. If we can’t get rid of the roaches in our own party, how can we get rid of the roaches in the rest of our government?
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I wish we would. I want to be able to buy from ebikes.ca again without crazy shipping fees.
Likewise I’d like to be able to buy homelab server stuff from just over the southern border off eBay again without the fees being 10x the price of the item. I saw a $30 HDD backplane with $400 shipping
Wish in one hand, shit in the other. See which one fills up first.
its both hands theres so much shit
There’s a strong economic incentive to have a legislative majority rein in the Presidential power to levy tariffs.
Democrats won’t do it. But they have a powerful incentive to do it. But they won’t.
There’s a strong economic incentive to have a legislative majority rein in the Presidential power to levy tariffs.
The courts have repeatedly ruled that he doesn’t even have the power to levy the tariffs he has, and yet people are still having to pay them.
The courts ruled against IEEPA based tariffs specifically.
That was just one layer in a thick stack of tariffs imposed under Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act 1962 (National Security), 301 of the Trade Act 1974 (Unfair Trade Practices) and 122 (150 day Balance of Payment Deficit rule), the anti dumping rules, and countervailing duties through the Commerce Department (the President has been granted authority under law to retaliate against foreign tariffs without Congressional dispensation).
Courts have yet to limit any of these powers. Congress could amend any of them or simply impose new oversight and limitations on presidential power to impose tariffs generally speaking.
It’s to late.
As an American, I kind of get it and even bitterly endorse this. We deserve it in so far as a country could deserve something.
Unfortunately, even if this was true the average American who’d suffer the consequences would be too incredibly fucking stupid to understand and would learn nothing from this.
You can remove the UK… They’re effectively the US next door to the EU.
UK has been drifting back lately. UK and EU just discussed and came to some agreements for a relationship reset.
American here. My apologies and do stay the course. There’s still a lot of stupid left in this country. Hopefully it gets sorted out in my lifetime.
Dane here. I wish Europe was on the political trajectory that the US seems to be now. We might have few EU-Trumps in our future 🤦
Hopefully we can unite the world in peace and harmony before the psychos blow it up.
Yup forgiveness has to be earned. It’s called healthy boundaries.
You’re correct. Just keep in mind that capitalism will always trend towards end stage. Reforms may delay it, but youre all on the same road we’re on. just not as far down the road.
Wish you well in your attempts to find a better, more stable way of life for all.
Rent is due in 26 days.
Fair
Every couple of years we will flip flop between batshit crazy and somewhat less crazy. You need to move on from us. This is not healthy.
Like a toxic ex that you can’t seem to get rid of.
Sad.
In your opinion, what would it take for the US to push for electoral reform of some kind?
There is an interstate pact that has 82% of electoral college votes required to subvert the electoral college and elect the president via a national popular vote. With the blue tsunami this week, it could in theory reach 100%, in which case the odds of the US ever having a Republican president again drop significantly since the majority of recent Republican presidental wins have actually lost the popular vote.
problem is the pact is unenforceable. if a purple state in the compact swings red, there’s no guarantee they’ll vote with the popular vote.
it needs a constitutional amendment
Well, no. The entire premise is that the states pass laws giving their EC votes to the winner of the popular vote. It’s not just a pinky promise lol. Those laws would have to be overturned by their state legislatures in advance.
The only part that makes it a pact is that none of the state laws go into effect until enough other states pass their laws.
It’s just as enforceable as any other state law or constitution.
I would say money out of politics is a good start. Citizens United needs to go.
Beyond that though, American willingly voted in a man twice who said he grabs women by the pussy.
- A segment of the population was ok with that
- A segment of the population didn’t care enough and either stayed home or still voted for him.
Then there’s all the other shitty things about him that were known for years prior to 2016.
I don’t know how you fix that. America shows us all who they are and how do you change who you are? A sexist, racist, money obsessed bipolar lunatic.
Violent Revolution.
Things will need to get much worse before that happens. Elections were meant to be bloodless revolutions, but we are shackled to the two party system. This make peaceful revolution almost impossible (almost).
Sadly, that’ll never happen. Americans only protests when it’s convenient, and they’ll never boycott the things they will not let go of.
It’s funny that Americans laugh at the French joking they always surrender etc, but they sure as shit know how to protest, and protest about even the slightest reduction in personal rights. Americans are the weak ones.
I get what you’re saying, but I wouldn’t call it funny. It’s fucking insane. Americans (speaking from having been one for a looooong time) by-and-large won’t move a muscle if it comes at a cost of effort. But boy do we love being seen standing against all the things that we believe are bad.
It’s a show. At the end of the day, they cannot be bothered to make the necessary sacrifices it would take to move the needle even an inch in their favor.
Unfortunately for many Americans, they don’t have anything close to the level of safety nets the French have. When most of your population is a single day of missed work away from homelessness or not being able to afford something like insulin, it gets pretty fucking hard to do much.
I’m unsure electoral reform by itself is going to happen. The problem is, we have a 250 year old constitution that hasn’t modernized well, and old money has sunk its teeth deeply into the current system such that it’s ineffective at real change. The idea of a 1 time, 5% wealth tax is the cutting edge of what’s considered “radical”.
In my opinion, what it will take, is someone like Trump, or worse than Trump, finally shaking the country to a breaking point where the old system collapses. And I’ll be honest - I’d love to see the change, but I’m not sure I’ll survive the surgery to get there. But what I think it will take is the country finally reaching a point where they push for a constitutional convention, and in that setting, lay out reforms for our current electoral process. Anything short of that, and you’re basically looking to get to a majority of people in power willing to vote to give up their own power. That’s not impossible, but tends only to be true in rare cases, immediately after a huge shift in power like a revolution.
Probably getting rid of Citizen’s United, taxing the wealthy correctly, getting rid of the electoral college, reworking the makeup of the Supreme Court, and ranked choice voting would do most of it. All hard but doable.
Theoretically we could end the electoral college next year. There’s a thing called the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. We now have trifectas in enough states for it to go in effect, should a few more states join. We also have Congress too (needed because they’ll have to approve it). It’s unlikely the federal government can force the states to do ranked choice voting without a Constitutional amendment. But we could implement it on a state by state basis. The Supreme Court could be reshaped by the next President and a willing Congress - the needed precedent is already there in the circuit courts. Citizen’s United is trickiest. The straightforward approach requires either a Constitutional amendment or the Supreme Court to overturn itself. But it’s possible there’s some tricky alternate paths to accomplish the goal. One of them is convincing enough states to ban corporate spending on political speech. Since corporations are a state creation, they alone have that sort of power. Problem is even one non cooperating state could possibly ruin that. But there might be other ways too.
If it was revealed that the federal government is mostly a front to transnational criminal syndicates that traffic humans, smuggle drugs and weapons.
Oh wait…
Yeah, it all changed in the 70s. Oh wait.
I don’t remember the percentage of the top of my head, but in America a huge amount of people are one unexpected large bill away from poverty and a lot of people are living pay check to pay check. Once a significant portion of America can no longer afford bread, then we might see some change… and likely deaths.
Bread is cheap. Rent is expensive. People won’t go hungry and revolt, they’ll go homeless and live in their cars.
This is not 1850. The world has changed. You gotta talk to people to build your movement. 100 years ago, people lived in communities and organised around the dinner table. Now try inviting someone over for porridge to discuss revolting against the king. They’ll tell you they’re too busy for a revolution. They’re a half hour drive away from you and they’re exhausted from 12 hours telling Copilot to balance spreadsheets. They’ll order maccas over doordash, eat while doomscrolling, and fall asleep.
They keep us just comfortable enough that we’ll keep running the maze for our next slice of cheese, but far too busy to question the maze itself. And they train us to respond to economic stress by running harder.
Well, for now. I’ve watched bread go from 30-40 cents a loaf to 3 dollars for the cheap stuff and 7-10 dollars for the fancy stuff - and that’s not considering whether the quality remains the same or has been diminished by ongoing efforts to reduce costs. Continued climate change threatens global food supply. RIsing energy costs may also threaten local food supplies that depend on steady trucking.
The rising price of bread is why our circuses have become more and more ridiculous.
Since voting in the USA is controlled at the state level, it would require a different effort on each state to replace First-past-the-post voting and other crucial reforms. Alaska has Ranked Choice Voting actually, despite conservatives putting ballot initiatives to go back to FPTP voting every election cycle.
The good news is that means electoral reform can happen easier at the state level then trying to push shit through at the federal level.
The bad news is liberals in this country get rock hard when they yell and scream at those disenfranchised by the two party system. They adore their chains.
Define electoral reform. Ranked voting in all states?
Im actually a fan of STAR voting. Here is a website that breaks down the advantages STAR voting has over Ranked Choice Voting.
That said, RCV is still a massive improvement over First-past-the-post.
Don’t count on it, they are proud that their constitution is really old.
Foreign policy is dictated by the president. Tariffs could get even worse, though Trump is looking pretty beat.
Tariffs are the domain of Congress which delegated it away to the executive under three circumstances, unfair foreign trade practice, national security, and national defence. We will see how these things get interpreted going forward.
It seems even if scotus rules against Trump, his guys have work-arounds planned that start the whole process over. Hopefully that can change now but I doubt his level of hostility will.
One can hope.
