• Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
      36·
      23 days ago

      Thanks for looking out for those who did not immediately see it as a whimsical fabrication.

      • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
        11·
        23 days ago

        I suspected, but I have no idea what’s happening in that world, and the entire planet is such a weird place right now, that literally anything is possible, no matter how whacky.

        • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
          71·
          23 days ago

          I had no thoughts of you one way or the other at all, let alone that. Though I do now… Way to show your narcissism shaft, conjuring hostile poor-me self-aggrandising drama from nothing.

          I was just thanking you.

          • mycodesucks@lemmy.world
            21·
            23 days ago

            Oh, jeez! Okay, I owe you an apology. This one is on me - I misread and just did what I accused you of doing. Sorry, Digit. I’ve got no excuse.

    • Avicenna@programming.dev
      2·
      23 days ago

      I would also have expected to see some mild insults (he has improved quite alot in terms of toning himself down).

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.worldEnglish
    114·
    23 days ago

    I’m not a programmer, but I find satire around programming easier to parse these days than satire around politics.

  • Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    48·
    23 days ago

    Careful, if you push them too much someone might make their own Linux, with Javascript (and hooks).

  • istdaslol@feddit.org
    39·
    23 days ago

    A lunduke post without whining about wokeness, you must have pulled this out of an ancient tomb

    • Arthur Besse@lemmy.mlEnglish
      151·
      23 days ago

      it’s not obvious but, i’m pretty sure this meme (and its creator’s vehement opposition to rust) is in fact substantially motivated by queerphobia.

        • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          51·
          23 days ago

          I feel like its usually not with the intent to harass but a misapplication of the term born of genuine ignorance about what makes someone or something fascist, which is itself subjective in certain contexts.

          A cursory glance at his Twitter profile shows him using the R slur, defending the fascist paramilitary group ICE, sharing an image that appears to depict Canada and Mexico being entirely conquered and subsumed by America, here’s an interesting little post of him glorifying literally fascist art, being a general transphobe (unsurprising), and im sure there’s lots of other heinous stuff i missed.

          Really it was very clear from one single glance at his Twitter page. Come on now, you can manage that much on your own surely.

            • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              2·
              22 days ago

              Xcancel is an alternative frontend for twitter to specifically avoid having to create an account to use Twitter. Again you could’ve gotten this information with a simple google search lmao “what is xcancel” 😂 there, I even typed it for you.

              I also wasnt the person you responded to initially.

              I also think that you’re a startlingly uncurious person if doing even a cursory glance at a google search is too much for you. Maybe these kinds of discussions just arent for you to begin with. If you really couldnt care less whether someone is a fascist or not, certainly not to the point of wanting to actually find out for yourself, then yeah maybe dont partake in the conversation.

        • Arthur Besse@lemmy.mlEnglish
          42·
          23 days ago

          I’m going to need you to drop a source that will take me less than five minutes to understand

          that sounds like sealioning 🤡 but i'll bite, once:

          are you asking for evidence that lunduke is queerphobic, or that the rust community has a disproportionate number of queer people in it?

          or, do you acknowledge both of those things, and are actually suggesting that lunduke’s vehement opposition to rust could maybe conceivably be entirely coincidental and perhaps he dislikes it for purely technical reasons? 😂

          in any case, i’m not going to link to lunduke but i just checked and confirmed that (as i assumed) if you simply search his twitter for the word rust you can find many tweets (and i only went back a month) where he is in fact complaining about people being queer.

            • Arthur Besse@lemmy.mlEnglish
              3·
              23 days ago

              that little triangle means you need to click on the the text in the comment to read the rest of it, because it’s wrapped in a spoiler tag. also fyi you can search twitter without a login using xcancel.com; it takes much less than 5 minutes to do so.

  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
    28·
    23 days ago

    As soon as I saw the name Lunduke - the Linux community’s Alex Jones for at least a decade - just not sure how much parody and how much trolling this is.

    • xeekei@lemmy.zipEnglish
      2·
      23 days ago

      Last time I heard about Lunduke, he made pretty funny “Linux sucks” talks. I feel like I’ve missed stuff.

      • onlinepersona@programming.devEnglish
        2·
        23 days ago

        Ho boy. Don’t ruin the good ol’ memory of the dude. Some things should be left untouched, just like the movies you watched as a child.

  • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
    24·
    23 days ago

    If they don’t learn their lesson and shape up from that, Haskell.

        • gerryflap@feddit.nl
          4·
          23 days ago

          Haha. The video is a bit pessimistic tho, I know people who work at companies with Haskell running in production (who are happy with it). Personally I have used monads, and I’ve wished for their functionality in other languages like Java, but I couldn’t reasonably explain what they are.

          Also, as someone who know just about enough German to understand some of what they’re saying, it’s always quite hard to follow these videos. My brain doesn’t understand it when it hears “Das war ein Befehl!” and the subtitles ramble on about something completely different

          • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
            3·
            23 days ago

            couldn’t reasonably explain what they are.

            I’ve been through phases when I could explain it, and in far simpler terms, less jargony, than endofunctors.

            enough German to understand

            Heh, yeah, as I rewatched it, laughing hard, I wondered how much it fails for those who understand German.

            • Log in | Sign up@lemmy.world
              12·
              23 days ago

              I’ve been through phases when I could explain it, and in far simpler terms, less jargony, than endofunctors

              A monad is when you can do shit and return stuff. There are two things you can do in absolutely every doShitAndReturnStuff:

              1. andThen, also known as ; in less flexible languages and >>= in more esoteric languages.
              2. And return also known as
                function ret(const a)
                { ret = a
                } in other languages.

              There are two rules:

              1. (a then b) then c = a then (b then c), which sounds obvious, but I skipped a couple of values being passed (I’m using the kleisli category), and it can actually go wrong, which means that if you don’t have a monad but behave like you do, all sorts of subtle and very hard indeed to debug errors can sneak in. See “software complexity problem” for details.
              2. ret then somethingrother = somethingorother = somethingorother then ret, which would seem obvious to you if you spotted that ret does nothing, but for fun, it turns out that in a language with a sufficiently advanced/flexible/accurate type system (eg Hindley-Milner stuff), of you manage 2 you get 1 for free, which is totally awesome.

              “But what’s the point?” I hear all the Python devs say “We already got rid of the curly brackets. What more do you want?” (Which starts a flame war with the C syntax folk while the elm programmers shake their head and wonder why anyone is manually formatting their code whether it’s with curly braces or not in 2026).

              Well, the point, my dear internet Lunatics that have persisted with this fairly unhelpful and daft re-expression of monads, the point is: what if you could redefine ; locally to totally rewire your programming language and everyone was used to that and understood what you were doing from context? Yesterday it was making database requests, but today it’s answering queries on a server. Or authenticating users from the other side of the globe. Maybe now it’s a recursive descent parser or a non-deterministic, expanding list of possible future moves in a game.

              It’s totally awesome and powerful and you just don’t know that you’re missing it because you have no idea unless you already know, but that’s not really helping anyone that doesn’t already understand monads, sorry. Not that this was a plausible attempt at that. It’s more just a bit of humour if you already came across monads. Famously a monad is like a burrito more than anything else.

              But unfortunately there are also monad transformer stacks. And… …operator soup for lenses and prisms. And trust me, you don’t want to go there, you really, really don’t. Just don’t go there, I’m telling you, don’t. DID YOU LIKE BEING SANE? I WARNED YOU, REMEMBER.

              • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
                1·
                23 days ago

                A monad is when you can do shit and return stuff.

                LMAO. XD

                Fun as that is, I think I’ll lean more to the “Burrito” explanation [~ a-ha, you do get to that further down]. Or maybe even something refining “maffs all the way down”.

                monad transformer stacks

                … that like a “super monad”?

                It sounds fun. … like an advanced form of chasing your own tail like trying to program almost entirely with GOTO.

                elm

                When I heal from burnout, Ima go learn elm.

                (Wont heal If I don’t heed “recovery from burnout takes twice as long as you think”, and stop trying to jump into geekings or political/philsophical debates the moment I have 1 spoon back.)

                • Log in | Sign up@lemmy.world
                  2·
                  23 days ago

                  elm is easily the loveliest programming language of any paradigm I’ve ever come across. Imagine if you enjoyed maintaining an old codebase, or that five years later adding a new feature wouldn’t take you half a day to get your had round the insane tangled spaghetti of your project, because the spaghetti and the meatballs and the sauce were always kept separate until cooked and served on the dish by the compiler. You find the spaghetti straight and in bundles because that’s how you like them laid out and no one tried to get you to soften them in the warm sauce and thread them through the raw meatballs. Imagine if the compiler did your whole project in about three to five seconds, and was genuinely helpful when something is going to bite you later.

                  Get your monad burritos here: https://byorgey.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/abstraction-intuition-and-the-monad-tutorial-fallacy/

            • onlinepersona@programming.devEnglish
              3·
              23 days ago

              My memory of it was that it was unnecessarily arcane. I had (and still have) a better understanding of assembly than COBOL. COBOL has hundreds of keywords. And while an instruction set can have thousands of instructions, COBOL still felt more difficult.

              Also, nearly any executable can be decompiled to assembly. If you understand assembly, it has a plethora of uses. COBOL can make big bank, but it currently has very limited use.

      • psud@aussie.zoneEnglish
        1·
        23 days ago

        I have never used COBOL, but it’s the language for the system I’m an analyst for, and I don’t see a problem with it

  • thorhop@sopuli.xyz
    16·
    23 days ago

    Been saying this for years. rustc is basically the compiler equivalent of a parent making the house rules stricter to reign in bad habits.

    “Alright, from NOW ON, EVERYONE USES A BORROW CHECKER!!!”

    “But mooooom~”

    “No buts, Mister.”

    • mech@feddit.orgOP
      307·
      23 days ago

      I found this pic on duckduckgo, didn’t even visit the website to save it.
      And I’m not watching a 1h+ video with a title that has nothing to do with your claim, to find out if some dude I don’t even know or care about is a fascist.

      • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
        61·
        23 days ago

        Lunduke is mentioned 10s into the video and Linux Sucks is his series of videos.

        … “The end of Linux has already happened”, and he’s serious about it, complaining about pretty much everything.

        He’s definitely anti-woke in all its colorful facets, self-confesssed “conservative” and hides behind constant “I’m not political” statements to continue pushing clearly political opinion.

        He is the Alex Jones of the Linux community.

        All this becomes very clear in the first 10 min of the video.

      • teolan@lemmy.world
        5·
        23 days ago

        Fair response. I just hope you’ll have it in mind if you stumble on other of this guy’s stuff. He’s terrible.

        • CanadaPlus@futurology.todayEnglish
          133·
          23 days ago

          TBH I feel the same way when someone sends me a source that would take a good fraction of my day to check.

          Why don’t you put in a little bit of your own time to extract the relevant parts, and explain the surrounding context?

            • CanadaPlus@futurology.todayEnglish
              1·
              22 days ago

              That’s not really what I meant.

              To do this properly, OP would have to start with the relevant timestamp and a brief transcript. The context would then be, like, why this is being mentioned in that video and at that place in the video, even if it’s as simple as “this is a prominent Linux YouTuber talking about the drama a bit in passing”. Just so that it’s not quote mining from irrelevant people and places.

              (It’s worth noting that a guy I’ve never heard of being fashy isn’t really a crazy claim, anyway. I’m not going to make final judgements based on it, but then I wouldn’t ask for a source, either)

            • teolan@lemmy.world
              81·
              23 days ago

              WTF I never said you must watch the video… OP answered they don’t even know who it is that’s perfectly reasonable. I I won’t pressure them into learning more about Lunduke. Nobody deserves that.